Re: BigISP<-->SmallISP peerings
Zachary DeAquila <zachary@zachs.place.org> wrote:
Hrm. Does it matter if the small ISP already has transit with someone else? In such a case, peering does nothing but shorten the path from SmallISP to BigISP in order to no longer make it go through SmallISPs transit provider.
Yes, but then from the point of view of large ISP the peering is of zero value. You see, it has to deliver packets to IXP anyway. OTOH, the load on routers, bloated configurations and engineering resources to support the additional peering are quite real. --vadim
Hrm. Does it matter if the small ISP already has transit with someone else? In such a case, peering does nothing but shorten the path from SmallISP to BigISP in order to no longer make it go through SmallISPs transit provider.
Yes, but then from the point of view of large ISP the peering is of zero value. You see, it has to deliver packets to IXP anyway. OTOH, the load on routers, bloated configurations and engineering resources to support the additional peering are quite real.
Not quite zero - if you have direct Small/Big vs Small/Transit/Big, then you bypass any potential problems with Transit. --asp@partan.com (Andrew Partan)
I am trying to feel sorry for the poor burdened Large ISP.....:) If it was just a matter of money, I would expect the large ISPs could add to their revenue streams by offering peering at a price to those networks they would otherwise not peer with. We have all heard that they are deluged by requests, right? Maybe there are not enoungh networks interested in such a service to make it worthwhile. Wait a minute here, I thought they were overwelmed by requests.... Personally I question this idea of being deluged, after all there are only a small number of networks at MAE-East which I believe has more IPs than any other connection point. And the big guys *are* peered with many of the networks connected there, so there are only a dozen or so left to peer with. Maybe there is some kind of new math working here. And BTW, I have not found a single large ISP willing to sell bi-lateral peering to me and I *have* asked for price quotes on this. Best Regards, Robert Laughlin ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- DataXchange sales: 800-863-1550 http://www.dx.net Network Operations Center: 703-903-7412 -or- 888-903-7412 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Sat, 26 Oct 1996, Vadim Antonov wrote:
Zachary DeAquila <zachary@zachs.place.org> wrote:
Hrm. Does it matter if the small ISP already has transit with someone else? In such a case, peering does nothing but shorten the path from SmallISP to BigISP in order to no longer make it go through SmallISPs transit provider.
Yes, but then from the point of view of large ISP the peering is of zero value. You see, it has to deliver packets to IXP anyway. OTOH, the load on routers, bloated configurations and engineering resources to support the additional peering are quite real.
--vadim
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