I am anticpating that your slides will be put up on prdb.merit.edu, so I don't think I will need to get your slides since they will have them as well as my notes on their server. I was going to followup my notes (which I was trying to keep opinion nutral) with another note with some of the various opinions expressed about what was said. You have done part of that for me with your analysis of the NAP talks. Thanks for your comments. -- Stan | Academ Consulting Services |internet: sob@academ.com Olan | For more info on academ, see this |uucp: bcm!academ!sob Barber | URL- http://www.academ.com/academ |Opinions expressed are only mine.