Somehow eTrade's following response didn't make it to the list. I think it's important enough to resubmit it given the erroneous info posted earlier. -Jim P. -----Original Message----- From: David Rickling [mailto:drickling@etrade.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 6:02 PM To: 'LeBlanc, Jason'; 'Jim Popovitch'; 'Sean Donelan'; nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: How to get better security people E*TRADE Financial has it's full complement of System and Network Security people still employed. The Director and Sr. Manager of the group have been with the Company for nearly five years and the average length of time within the group is 2 + years. E*TRADE Financial is dedicated to protecting it's customer assets and holds security is a core value for all associates. David Rickling Lead Network Engineer Network Architecture & Integrations E*Trade Financial This e-mail is the property of E*TRADE Group, Inc. It is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or otherwise protected from disclosure. Distribution or copying of this e-mail or the information contained herein by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by e-mail at drickling@etrade.com <mailto:drickling@etrade.com> and telephone at (650)-331-5269. Please delete and destroy any copies of this e-mail. E*TRADE Group, Inc. 4500 Bohannon Drive Menlo, California 94025 -----Original Message----- From: LeBlanc, Jason [mailto:Jml@ebay.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 11:25 AM To: 'Jim Popovitch'; LeBlanc, Jason; 'Sean Donelan'; nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: How to get better security people What eBay does as a business is of little consequence to me, as a network engineer, though it seems they make pretty good decisions based on things I've seen in three years here. That "fact" came from someone who worked for them in Atlanta, was merely an idle comment meant to share a bit of information. The tone of your reply is a bit off.

-----Original Message----- From: Jim Popovitch [mailto:jimpop@rocketship.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 11:06 AM To: LeBlanc, Jason; 'Sean Donelan'; nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: How to get better security people

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-----Original Message----- From: LeBlanc, Jason <Jml@ebay.com>

On that note, Etrade layed off their entire net sec team a few months back. I don't trade there no more. ;)

Let me guess, eBay is moving into securities trading next.... Your "facts" about eTrade are wrong, very wrong.

-Jim P.