Re: register.com down sev0?
Chris, W.R.T. #2 below: Be for real: No one ever suggested that backbone service providers attempt to ingress filter traffic -- this is an edge function. Cheers, - ferg -- "Chris L. Morrow" <christopher.morrow@verizonbusiness.com> wrote: On Thu, 26 Oct 2006, Fergie wrote:
and co-authored -- and likewise, cannot figure out for life of me, why there is such push-back from the Ops community on doing The Right Thing.
you could google answers from other folks but in shor: 1) it doesn't always work as advertised 2) people don't always tell you the routes the hold 3) equipment vendors don't alway splan properly for 'features' Not everyone is as smart as you (both) and can manage that problem as they scale... -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg(at)netzero.net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/
At 05:26 PM 10/26/2006, Fergie wrote:
Chris,
W.R.T. #2 below:
Be for real: No one ever suggested that backbone service providers attempt to ingress filter traffic -- this is an edge function.
I guess I'd add some clarification, though it should be obvious without. Backbone service providers who also sell edge circuits (e.g. dedicated T-1's to non-multihomed customers) ARE providing the edge function. A provider who claims "we're a backbone, so we should do no ingress filtering at all" is being disingenuous, at least for many of the largest networks today. I'm not accusing anyone of actually making such statements at all. I agree with Paul that this is an edge function, but that "edge" is a part of nearly every provider at some point in their businesses.
-- "Chris L. Morrow" <christopher.morrow@verizonbusiness.com> wrote:
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006, Fergie wrote:
and co-authored -- and likewise, cannot figure out for life of me, why there is such push-back from the Ops community on doing The Right Thing.
you could google answers from other folks but in shor: 1) it doesn't always work as advertised 2) people don't always tell you the routes the hold 3) equipment vendors don't alway splan properly for 'features'
Not everyone is as smart as you (both) and can manage that problem as they scale...
-- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg(at)netzero.net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006, Fergie wrote:
Chris,
W.R.T. #2 below:
Be for real: No one ever suggested that backbone service providers attempt to ingress filter traffic -- this is an edge function.
ah, cause I thought 'everyone should do bcp38' mean 'everyone'... I agree that it's a great thing, I think 'everyone' should do it, I even thing we should where possible. I think LOTS of this would go away if people filtered their lan segments... tey have the horsey's there to do it without the compromises that must be taken at the 'core' (or 'more central portions of 'the net') And I was sorta yanking your chain some :)
Cheers,
- ferg
-- "Chris L. Morrow" <christopher.morrow@verizonbusiness.com> wrote:
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006, Fergie wrote:
and co-authored -- and likewise, cannot figure out for life of me, why there is such push-back from the Ops community on doing The Right Thing.
you could google answers from other folks but in shor: 1) it doesn't always work as advertised 2) people don't always tell you the routes the hold 3) equipment vendors don't alway splan properly for 'features'
Not everyone is as smart as you (both) and can manage that problem as they scale...
-- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg(at)netzero.net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/
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