october 16th is the first anniversary of the death of jon postel. while it might be tempting to shut the net off for an hour in memoriam, it does not seem very responsible. i intend to shut down my personal home/office site and all servers there for the day. others may have their own ways of expressing respect and regret. randy
Forgive my igorance. Who is Jon Postel? -John, ___________________________________________________________________________ John Vo jvo@inx.net American Network Inc./INternet eXchange System Engineer ph. 212-758-3283 x 3016 http://www.inx.net/~jvo fx. 212-758-3453 ------------------------- "Tomorrow is another day" ___________________________________________________________________________ On Thu, 7 Oct 1999, Randy Bush wrote:
october 16th is the first anniversary of the death of jon postel. while it might be tempting to shut the net off for an hour in memoriam, it does not seem very responsible.
i intend to shut down my personal home/office site and all servers there for the day. others may have their own ways of expressing respect and regret.
randy
Btw, it's better to provide more info about him, and ask those who can set the banner refferring to this info, than to turn off/on anything. I am sure he prefer this. Alex On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, John D. Vo wrote:
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:16:03 -0400 (EDT) From: John D. Vo <jvo@inx.inx.net> To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> Cc: richard.casto@bms.com, nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: a moment of silence
Forgive my igorance. Who is Jon Postel?
-John, ___________________________________________________________________________
John Vo jvo@inx.net
American Network Inc./INternet eXchange System Engineer ph. 212-758-3283 x 3016 http://www.inx.net/~jvo fx. 212-758-3453 ------------------------- "Tomorrow is another day" ___________________________________________________________________________
On Thu, 7 Oct 1999, Randy Bush wrote:
october 16th is the first anniversary of the death of jon postel. while it might be tempting to shut the net off for an hour in memoriam, it does not seem very responsible.
i intend to shut down my personal home/office site and all servers there for the day. others may have their own ways of expressing respect and regret.
randy
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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:04:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Joe Shaw <jshaw@insync.net> Sender: owner-nanog@merit.edu
He was the author of many RFC's on how to make the Internet a better place.
It's obvious that we need to educate lots of folks on where the Internet came from. Too many people don't know who Jon was and what his impact on the net was. To say the least, Jon did a LOT more than write RFCs, though he did lots of that, too. Jon was one of the folks who was there at the birth of the Internet. If he was not a "father of the Internet", he was certainly one of its earliest tutors. Among other things, Jon was the keeper of RFCs and Internet numbers. If you had a new protocol or record type or anything else that needed a unique identifier, Jon was who you needed to talk to. He was the founder of the Internet Address and Naming Authority (IANA) and he did the top-level allocation of IP addresses and domain names. He (along with the indefatigable Joyce Reynolds) edited and assigned numbers to RFCs. And, since these functions did not exist before the start of the Internet, he invented the whole thing from scratch. I don't have the time to go over all of Jon's contributions to the Internet and am certainly not aware of all of them, but I feel very safe in saying that without Jon the Internet would be a very different "place" today...and I as good a place, either. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634
Thu, 14 Oct 1999, Kevin Oberman wrote:
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:04:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Joe Shaw <jshaw@insync.net> Sender: owner-nanog@merit.edu
He was the author of many RFC's on how to make the Internet a better place.
It's obvious that we need to educate lots of folks on where the Internet came from. Too many people don't know who Jon was and what his impact on the net was.
goto a couple of spam houses and send info educating *everyone* about Postel... Could that use of spam be considered ironic? ;-) scott
If he was not a "father of the Internet", he was certainly one of its
I thought that was Al Gore!! :-) But I digress, now back to our regularly scheduled backhoe induced cable outage announcements. -- Ted Frohling (TF30-ARIN) The University of Arizona 520.621.4834 CCIT Room 307 tsf@Arizona.EDU PO Box 210073 www.Telcom.Arizona.EDU/tsf Tucson, AZ 85721-0073
On Thu, Oct 14, 1999 at 11:44:25AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote:
It's obvious that we need to educate lots of folks on where the Internet came from. Too many people don't know who Jon was and what his impact on the net was.
On this point, is anyone actively writing either a biography of Jon or of the "real" story of the Internet? By real, I personally mean without the self-congratulating summaries, like those of certain (now marketing) folk, of how visionary they were in the early days. This would not likely work by committee... Regards, -- Peter Galbavy Knowledge Matters Ltd http://www.knowledge.com/
On Fri, Oct 15, 1999 at 09:53:38AM +0100, Peter Galbavy wrote:
On this point, is anyone actively writing either a biography of Jon or of the "real" story of the Internet? By real, I personally mean without the self-congratulating summaries, like those of certain (now marketing) folk, of how visionary they were in the early days.
There is a nice book that is very readable by the public at large on this topic. I don't claim that it is complete and covers everything, but it does okay: Where Wizards Stay Up Late by Katie Hafner, Matthew Lyon
Peter Galbavy
-- Jeffrey Haas elezar@pfrc.org
Joe Shaw wrote:
He was the author of many RFC's on how to make the Internet a better place.
-- Joseph W. Shaw - jshaw@insync.net Free UNIX advocate - "I hack, therefore I am."
On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, John D. Vo wrote:
Forgive my igorance. Who is Jon Postel?
He was really a lot more than that. To get a broader picture, see http://www.iana.org which has all the well-known links. -- Rodney Joffe CenterGate Research Group, LLC. http://www.centergate.com "Technology so advanced, even we don't understand it!"
Indeed, he was. I got into this business in 1995, so my ties with Mr. Postel don't go back as far as many of you. My apologies for my own ignorance. -- Joseph W. Shaw - jshaw@insync.net Free UNIX advocate - "I hack, therefore I am." On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, Rodney Joffe wrote:
Joe Shaw wrote:
He was the author of many RFC's on how to make the Internet a better place.
-- Joseph W. Shaw - jshaw@insync.net Free UNIX advocate - "I hack, therefore I am."
On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, John D. Vo wrote:
Forgive my igorance. Who is Jon Postel?
He was really a lot more than that. To get a broader picture, see http://www.iana.org which has all the well-known links.
-- Rodney Joffe CenterGate Research Group, LLC. http://www.centergate.com "Technology so advanced, even we don't understand it!"
In message <Pine.SV4.3.96.991014111538.5120A-100000@inx>, "John D. Vo" writes:
Forgive my igorance. Who is Jon Postel?
Short summary. Jon Postel was the RFC Editor from the series inception (1969) until his death last year. He was also the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority, and gave out all IP addresses, TCP and UDP reserved ports, top level domain names, and the like. More important, he was the author/editor of the specifications for TCP, IP, SMTP, and a raft of other Internet protocols, and during the Internet's early operational years, was the Internet Architect -- responsible for overseeing lots of the work of revising and revamping the protocols as they bent and broke during early operational use in the 1980s. Those who had the pleasure of working with Jon typically remember him as thoughtful, fair, and deeply interested in the welfare of the Internet. He put the Internet's welfare well ahead of his own -- he never cashed in on his expertise. Jon wasn't perfect -- he did make mistakes -- but he invariably made them after careful thought and tried to make the decision he believed was best for the Internet. Craig
www.isi.edu/~postel was the IANA, RFC-Editor, Founding member of ISOC, to name a few things. You may wish to check the RFCs on FTP/TELNET/POP/ etc..
Forgive my igorance. Who is Jon Postel?
-John, ___________________________________________________________________________
John Vo jvo@inx.net
American Network Inc./INternet eXchange System Engineer ph. 212-758-3283 x 3016 http://www.inx.net/~jvo fx. 212-758-3453
Grief is a personal thing, and expressing it is a private thing. I saw Jon spend more than one decade improving the net and its mechanisms for staying operational. It isn't tempting to me at all to shut down any part of the net. I'm sure Jon would not have wanted systems going offline and oos in his name.*** IMHO and respectfully Ehud *** Netsol might be exempted from that, but again, IMHO
october 16th is the first anniversary of the death of jon postel. while it might be tempting to shut the net off for an hour in memoriam, it does not seem very responsible.
i intend to shut down my personal home/office site and all servers there for the day. others may have their own ways of expressing respect and regret.
randy
look at the date. you are all responding to some sicko mail system's remailing of an old message. and yes, this was reported to merit many hours ago. randy
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 04:46:47 -0700 From: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> Subject: a moment of silence To: richard.casto@bms.com To: nanog@merit.edu
october 16th is the first anniversary of the death of jon postel. while it might be tempting to shut the net off for an hour in memoriam, it does not seem very responsible.
i intend to shut down my personal home/office site and all servers there for the day. others may have their own ways of expressing respect and regret.
randy
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Ted Frohling