Re: Bell vs. Internet Providers (fwd)
The question is where are the real costs of a local phone call? Are they in the call setup? Are they in the length of time for the call? Some combination? What switch resources need to be expanded to deal with long holding time calls? What switch resources can be reduced if you need to process fewer call setups? It is possible that modem calls are a bad deal for phone companies, but it is also possible they are a good deal. Does anyone really know? -Jeff Ogden Merit
On Nov 10, 13:23, Jeff.Ogden@um.cc.umich.edu <Jeff.Ogden@um.cc.umich.edu> wrote:
It is possible that modem calls are a bad deal for phone companies, but it is also possible they are a good deal. Does anyone really know?
Tuppence worth: A largish Scandinavian PTT evaluated their costs a couple of years ago and found that the call setup cost them on the order of USD 1.50 and the conversation practically nothing (this is from speaking to one of their senior tech people). This may be ignoring the fact that if the conversation is "free", then people (and modems) tend to talk longer, but they actually wanted to change their charging structure to match, but the regulators refused. Umm ... what is com-priv stuff doing on NANOG? -- ====== ___ === Per G. Bilse, Mgr Network Operations Ctr ===== / / / __ ___ _/_ ==== EUnet Communications Services B.V. ==== /--- / / / / /__/ / ===== Singel 540, 1017 AZ Amsterdam, NL === /___ /__/ / / /__ / ====== tel: +31 20 6233803, fax: +31 20 6224657 === ======= 24hr emergency number: +31 20 421 0865 === Connecting Europe since 1982 === http://www.EU.net; e-mail: bilse@EU.net
Don't forget to take into account, that the majority of the Telcos' charge metered rates for commercial local calls (and even non-commercial in sime areas). Therefore, they are deriving revenue from the use of the local facilities and they should have the operating revenues generated from these charges to re-invest in local switches, etc. The local per minuite rate in our markets is not inexpensive, and is charged to all call originators. R S Ashton Ashton Communications Corporation ACNET.NET On Fri, 10 Nov 1995 Jeff.Ogden@um.cc.umich.edu wrote:
The question is where are the real costs of a local phone call? Are they in the call setup? Are they in the length of time for the call? Some combination? What switch resources need to be expanded to deal with long holding time calls? What switch resources can be reduced if you need to process fewer call setups?
It is possible that modem calls are a bad deal for phone companies, but it is also possible they are a good deal. Does anyone really know?
-Jeff Ogden Merit
participants (3)
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Jeff.Ogden@um.cc.umich.edu
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Per Gregers Bilse
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Rae S. Ashton