Data Center Installations
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Do any of you have a "go to" resource for materials used in installations? Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah? I have found several places, but I'm curious to know what the nanog ninja's have to say. //warren
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Graybar. -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474 On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Warren Bailey < wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com> wrote:
Do any of you have a "go to" resource for materials used in installations? Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah?
I have found several places, but I'm curious to know what the nanog ninja's have to say.
//warren
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Seconded Graybar. If necessary, in the absence of Graybar or for tiny stuff, a Frys or Home Depot or Lowes. On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Joe Hamelin <joe@nethead.com> wrote:
Graybar.
-- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Warren Bailey < wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com> wrote:
Do any of you have a "go to" resource for materials used in installations? Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah?
I have found several places, but I'm curious to know what the nanog ninja's have to say.
//warren
-- -george william herbert george.herbert@gmail.com
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Wish there was Frys in the east -----Original Message----- From: George Herbert [mailto:george.herbert@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 3:42 PM To: Joe Hamelin Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Data Center Installations Seconded Graybar. If necessary, in the absence of Graybar or for tiny stuff, a Frys or Home Depot or Lowes. On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Joe Hamelin <joe@nethead.com> wrote:
Graybar.
-- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Warren Bailey < wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com> wrote:
Do any of you have a "go to" resource for materials used in installations? Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah?
I have found several places, but I'm curious to know what the nanog ninja's have to say.
//warren
-- -george william herbert george.herbert@gmail.com
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I'm more impressed with MicroCenter than Frys (at least the Frys south if SF). If you need RF I used to order from Davis RF all the time. On May 2, 2013 12:57 AM, "Ryan Finnesey" <ryan@finnesey.com> wrote:
Wish there was Frys in the east
-----Original Message----- From: George Herbert [mailto:george.herbert@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 3:42 PM To: Joe Hamelin Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Data Center Installations
Seconded Graybar. If necessary, in the absence of Graybar or for tiny stuff, a Frys or Home Depot or Lowes.
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Joe Hamelin <joe@nethead.com> wrote:
Graybar.
-- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Warren Bailey < wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com> wrote:
Do any of you have a "go to" resource for materials used in installations? Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah?
I have found several places, but I'm curious to know what the nanog ninja's have to say.
//warren
-- -george william herbert george.herbert@gmail.com
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Never been to MicroCenter Sent from my iPad mini On May 2, 2013, at 1:05 AM, "shawn wilson" <ag4ve.us@gmail.com<mailto:ag4ve.us@gmail.com>> wrote: I'm more impressed with MicroCenter than Frys (at least the Frys south if SF). If you need RF I used to order from Davis RF all the time. On May 2, 2013 12:57 AM, "Ryan Finnesey" <ryan@finnesey.com<mailto:ryan@finnesey.com>> wrote: Wish there was Frys in the east -----Original Message----- From: George Herbert [mailto:george.herbert@gmail.com<mailto:george.herbert@gmail.com>] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 3:42 PM To: Joe Hamelin Cc: nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: Data Center Installations Seconded Graybar. If necessary, in the absence of Graybar or for tiny stuff, a Frys or Home Depot or Lowes. On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Joe Hamelin <joe@nethead.com<mailto:joe@nethead.com>> wrote:
Graybar.
-- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474<tel:360-474-7474>
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Warren Bailey < wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com<mailto:wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>> wrote:
Do any of you have a "go to" resource for materials used in installations? Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah?
I have found several places, but I'm curious to know what the nanog ninja's have to say.
//warren
-- -george william herbert george.herbert@gmail.com<mailto:george.herbert@gmail.com>
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Microcenter does have some rad install gear. They have quite a few tools if I remember too.. I thought maybe there was a secret place to get cool data center layer 1 stuff.. Monoprice delivers same day here if I recall (socal). Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device -------- Original message -------- From: Ryan Finnesey <ryan@finnesey.com> Date: 05/01/2013 10:18 PM (GMT-08:00) To: shawn wilson <ag4ve.us@gmail.com> Cc: North American Network Operators Group <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: Data Center Installations Never been to MicroCenter Sent from my iPad mini On May 2, 2013, at 1:05 AM, "shawn wilson" <ag4ve.us@gmail.com<mailto:ag4ve.us@gmail.com>> wrote: I'm more impressed with MicroCenter than Frys (at least the Frys south if SF). If you need RF I used to order from Davis RF all the time. On May 2, 2013 12:57 AM, "Ryan Finnesey" <ryan@finnesey.com<mailto:ryan@finnesey.com>> wrote: Wish there was Frys in the east -----Original Message----- From: George Herbert [mailto:george.herbert@gmail.com<mailto:george.herbert@gmail.com>] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 3:42 PM To: Joe Hamelin Cc: nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: Data Center Installations Seconded Graybar. If necessary, in the absence of Graybar or for tiny stuff, a Frys or Home Depot or Lowes. On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Joe Hamelin <joe@nethead.com<mailto:joe@nethead.com>> wrote:
Graybar.
-- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474<tel:360-474-7474>
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Warren Bailey < wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com<mailto:wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>> wrote:
Do any of you have a "go to" resource for materials used in installations? Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah?
I have found several places, but I'm curious to know what the nanog ninja's have to say.
//warren
-- -george william herbert george.herbert@gmail.com<mailto:george.herbert@gmail.com>
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I thought maybe there was a secret place to get cool data center layer 1 st= uff..
Yeah, it's called "inventory" ... ;-) Seriously, there's a reason why it is common to maintain shelving in the data center, and/or storage lockers nearby. The stuff you use and find usable isn't the same stuff that I use and find usable, and while I don't know about you, I'm too cheap to pay top dollar for JIT style acquisition of the stuff I need, even assuming that there was someplace local that sold it. Easier to have it on-site. As for acquiring the stuff in the first place? Yeah, no good single source. We have a drawerful of current catalogs for various vendors, such as: ADI - low voltage distributors, often good pricing on bulk cable and UPS batteries C&H Distributors - General industrial equipment, workbenches, shelving, storage bins, etc. CablesToGo - KVM cables, PC and network cabling, power cords, etc DigiKey - Mostly electronics parts and connectors PI Manufacturing - All sorts of various inexpensive bits and pieces for networks and PC's, cables, adapters, etc. StayOnline - More obscure stuff for the data center, such as C13-to-C14 power Y's to mention some of the less-obvious ones, But these days there's a huge amount of purchasing that goes on entirely through online catalogs etc. ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net "We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN) With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.
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On 05/01/2013 10:05 PM, shawn wilson wrote:
I'm more impressed with MicroCenter than Frys (at least the Frys south if SF).
Too bad the Micro Center in Santa Clara along hwy 101 closed shop a year or so ago. According to them the owner of the building raised the lease price too much. The closest one for the bay Area now is LA... But I too liked them better than frys. It looks like in frys most time I spend dodging pushy sales people. You can't look at a thing for more than 10 seconds before some creepster walks over asking if you need help. A good alternative for the Bay Area is Central Computers. They even have a healthy selection of server hardware, including cases and motherboards: http://www.centralcomputers.com/commerce/catalog/spcategory.jsp?category_id=... Greetings, Jeroen -- Earthquake Magnitude: 4.4 Date: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 14:10:48 UTC Location: Kuril Islands Latitude: 44.1198; Longitude: 147.1659 Depth: 76.00 km
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Central Computers is ok on no-name server components, but not at all for rack / cabling / power / management / etc. Micro Center was right next to places I go to eat over there, but all gone. I can almost see Frys off Lawrence/Scott from here, and there's a Graybar 3 miles the other direction. They no longer welcome me at that Graybar with my first name, I spent too much time ordering online for delivery and / or doing datacenters up in SF / the Peninsula, but there were a few years in the 90s... BTW, if you're sweating the cost on your cable wrap velcro, you're missing something. Your time is more valuable than all the above. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Jeroen van Aart <jeroen@mompl.net> wrote:
On 05/01/2013 10:05 PM, shawn wilson wrote:
I'm more impressed with MicroCenter than Frys (at least the Frys south if SF).
Too bad the Micro Center in Santa Clara along hwy 101 closed shop a year or so ago. According to them the owner of the building raised the lease price too much. The closest one for the bay Area now is LA... But I too liked them better than frys. It looks like in frys most time I spend dodging pushy sales people. You can't look at a thing for more than 10 seconds before some creepster walks over asking if you need help.
A good alternative for the Bay Area is Central Computers. They even have a healthy selection of server hardware, including cases and motherboards: http://www.centralcomputers.**com/commerce/catalog/** spcategory.jsp?category_id=**1573<http://www.centralcomputers.com/commerce/catalog/spcategory.jsp?category_id=1573>
Greetings, Jeroen
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Wish there was Frys in the east=20
Micro Center is kind of like a less-insane Frys. Always seem to be somewhat inconveniently located though. ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net "We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN) With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.
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Graybar is great -----Original Message----- From: Joe Hamelin [mailto:joe@nethead.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 3:32 PM To: Warren Bailey Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Data Center Installations Graybar. -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474 On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Warren Bailey < wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com> wrote:
Do any of you have a "go to" resource for materials used in installations? Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah?
I have found several places, but I'm curious to know what the nanog ninja's have to say.
//warren
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On the cheap Lowes/Home Depot are awesome, and they're everywhere. On 05/01/2013 03:23 PM, Warren Bailey wrote:
Do any of you have a "go to" resource for materials used in installations? Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah?
I have found several places, but I'm curious to know what the nanog ninja's have to say.
//warren
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I'm a huge fan of netig... they bend over backwards for you. -chris Do any of you have a "go to" resource for materials used in installations? Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah? I have found several places, but I'm curious to know what the nanog ninja's have to say. //warren
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-----Original Message----- From: Warren Bailey [mailto:wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 2:24 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Data Center Installations
Do any of you have a "go to" resource for materials used in installations? Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah?
I have found several places, but I'm curious to know what the nanog ninja's have to say.
//warren
We've used both CSC and Graybar, more frequently CSC better deals in our case. For very nice affordable Cat 5e/6A patch cords iofast.com we've never purchased a patch from anywhere else since we found them.
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Tessco or Hutton. Lil pricey unless you buy in bulk. Good fit for you though since they carry RF and antenna stuff too. -mike Sent from my iPhone On May 1, 2013, at 12:45, "Otis L. Surratt, Jr." <otis@ocosa.com> wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: Warren Bailey [mailto:wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 2:24 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Data Center Installations
Do any of you have a "go to" resource for materials used in installations? Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah?
I have found several places, but I'm curious to know what the nanog ninja's have to say.
//warren
We've used both CSC and Graybar, more frequently CSC better deals in our case. For very nice affordable Cat 5e/6A patch cords iofast.com we've never purchased a patch from anywhere else since we found them.
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Along this same line of questioning... favorite Velcro? I used to get spools of about 500 8 inch strips for a reasonable amount however the vendor went out of business. The cloth tabs are nice, but then end up getting in the way... Thanks, Blake -----Original Message----- From: Otis L. Surratt, Jr. [mailto:otis@ocosa.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 1:40 PM To: Warren Bailey; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Data Center Installations -----Original Message----- From: Warren Bailey [mailto:wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 2:24 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Data Center Installations
Do any of you have a "go to" resource for materials used in installations? Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah?
I have found several places, but I'm curious to know what the nanog ninja's have to say.
//warren
We've used both CSC and Graybar, more frequently CSC better deals in our case. For very nice affordable Cat 5e/6A patch cords iofast.com we've never purchased a patch from anywhere else since we found them.
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-----Original Message----- From: Blake Pfankuch - Mailing List [mailto:blake.mailinglist@pfankuch.me] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 6:18 PM To: Otis L. Surratt, Jr.; Warren Bailey; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Data Center Installations
Along this same line of questioning... favorite Velcro? I used to get spools of about 500 8 inch strips for a reasonable amount however the vendor went out of business. The cloth tabs are nice, but then end >up getting in the way...
Thanks, Blake
You should be able to get a roll from Graybar. Never checked with CSC for that. We bought a large roll from Graybar and simply cut what we need. It's not precut and pretty but it works.
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For bulk velcro, I found Uline to be fairly cheap. On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Otis L. Surratt, Jr. <otis@ocosa.com> wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: Blake Pfankuch - Mailing List [mailto:blake.mailinglist@pfankuch.me] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 6:18 PM To: Otis L. Surratt, Jr.; Warren Bailey; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Data Center Installations
Along this same line of questioning... favorite Velcro? I used to get spools of about 500 8 inch strips for a reasonable amount however the vendor went out of business. The cloth tabs are nice, but then end >up getting in the way...
Thanks, Blake
You should be able to get a roll from Graybar. Never checked with CSC for that. We bought a large roll from Graybar and simply cut what we need. It's not precut and pretty but it works.
-- Mike Lyon 408-621-4826 mike.lyon@gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon
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We have been going with rolls and cut to fit, however looking for something precut that way we don't end up with a NOC monkey putting a 18 inch piece of Velcro on 4 cat5 cables... I do have pictures... If they only get 8 inch strips, it helps keep things cleaner, and then leave the cut to fit to the people who have "engineer" in their title. Mike, I was looking at them as well and will add them to the list to pay attention to. Thanks, for the suggestion, I will order a roll and have a look. Thanks, Blake From: Mike Lyon [mailto:mike.lyon@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 5:33 PM To: Otis L. Surratt, Jr. Cc: Blake Pfankuch - Mailing List; Warren Bailey; NANOG Subject: Re: Data Center Installations For bulk velcro, I found Uline to be fairly cheap. On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Otis L. Surratt, Jr. <otis@ocosa.com<mailto:otis@ocosa.com>> wrote: -----Original Message----- From: Blake Pfankuch - Mailing List [mailto:blake.mailinglist@pfankuch.me<mailto:blake.mailinglist@pfankuch.me>] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 6:18 PM To: Otis L. Surratt, Jr.; Warren Bailey; nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org> Subject: RE: Data Center Installations
Along this same line of questioning... favorite Velcro? I used to get spools of about 500 8 inch strips for a reasonable amount however the vendor went out of business. The cloth tabs are nice, but then end >up getting in the way...
Thanks, Blake
You should be able to get a roll from Graybar. Never checked with CSC for that. We bought a large roll from Graybar and simply cut what we need. It's not precut and pretty but it works. -- Mike Lyon 408-621-4826 mike.lyon@gmail.com<mailto:mike.lyon@gmail.com> http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon
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On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Mike Lyon <mike.lyon@gmail.com> wrote:
For bulk velcro, I found Uline to be fairly cheap.
I have to ask, is this an April fools joke? ULine isn't cheap for anything. Monoprice, $13, around $25 delivered depending on where you're at and how yu ship it, for 5x black hook and loop 5yd per roll... vs. ULine $28 (1x black hook and loop 75') and probably about same S&H. No easy way to get them to quote S&H but last time I ordered from them (they're about the only place to get some stuff) ULine is over 2x as much. Oh and Monoprice has it in quite a few colors if you don't care for black. If you're going for pre-made cable wrap type stuff it's a bit more, but still half or less than ULine. ULine is definitely a supplier of last resort, but they've got a lot of different stuff.
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Is hard to beat Monoprice :) But no, I have purchased velcro in bulk from ULine (not the kind for wrapping cable though) and found it to be cheaper and I usually got it the next day for not that much shipping. -Mike On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Michael Loftis <mloftis@wgops.com> wrote:
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Mike Lyon <mike.lyon@gmail.com> wrote:
For bulk velcro, I found Uline to be fairly cheap.
I have to ask, is this an April fools joke? ULine isn't cheap for anything. Monoprice, $13, around $25 delivered depending on where you're at and how yu ship it, for 5x black hook and loop 5yd per roll... vs. ULine $28 (1x black hook and loop 75') and probably about same S&H. No easy way to get them to quote S&H but last time I ordered from them (they're about the only place to get some stuff) ULine is over 2x as much. Oh and Monoprice has it in quite a few colors if you don't care for black. If you're going for pre-made cable wrap type stuff it's a bit more, but still half or less than ULine.
ULine is definitely a supplier of last resort, but they've got a lot of different stuff.
-- Mike Lyon 408-621-4826 mike.lyon@gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon
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Zip ties have no reason to be in a dc grr Sent from my iPhone On 2013-05-01, at 6:57 PM, "Mike Lyon" <mike.lyon@gmail.com> wrote:
Is hard to beat Monoprice :)
But no, I have purchased velcro in bulk from ULine (not the kind for wrapping cable though) and found it to be cheaper and I usually got it the next day for not that much shipping.
-Mike
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Michael Loftis <mloftis@wgops.com> wrote:
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Mike Lyon <mike.lyon@gmail.com> wrote:
For bulk velcro, I found Uline to be fairly cheap.
I have to ask, is this an April fools joke? ULine isn't cheap for anything. Monoprice, $13, around $25 delivered depending on where you're at and how yu ship it, for 5x black hook and loop 5yd per roll... vs. ULine $28 (1x black hook and loop 75') and probably about same S&H. No easy way to get them to quote S&H but last time I ordered from them (they're about the only place to get some stuff) ULine is over 2x as much. Oh and Monoprice has it in quite a few colors if you don't care for black. If you're going for pre-made cable wrap type stuff it's a bit more, but still half or less than ULine.
ULine is definitely a supplier of last resort, but they've got a lot of different stuff.
-- Mike Lyon 408-621-4826 mike.lyon@gmail.com
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Bring your lacing skills? Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device -------- Original message -------- From: Mark Gauvin <MGauvin@dryden.ca> Date: 05/01/2013 5:01 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Mike Lyon <mike.lyon@gmail.com> Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: Data Center Installations Zip ties have no reason to be in a dc grr Sent from my iPhone On 2013-05-01, at 6:57 PM, "Mike Lyon" <mike.lyon@gmail.com> wrote:
Is hard to beat Monoprice :)
But no, I have purchased velcro in bulk from ULine (not the kind for wrapping cable though) and found it to be cheaper and I usually got it the next day for not that much shipping.
-Mike
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Michael Loftis <mloftis@wgops.com> wrote:
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Mike Lyon <mike.lyon@gmail.com> wrote:
For bulk velcro, I found Uline to be fairly cheap.
I have to ask, is this an April fools joke? ULine isn't cheap for anything. Monoprice, $13, around $25 delivered depending on where you're at and how yu ship it, for 5x black hook and loop 5yd per roll... vs. ULine $28 (1x black hook and loop 75') and probably about same S&H. No easy way to get them to quote S&H but last time I ordered from them (they're about the only place to get some stuff) ULine is over 2x as much. Oh and Monoprice has it in quite a few colors if you don't care for black. If you're going for pre-made cable wrap type stuff it's a bit more, but still half or less than ULine.
ULine is definitely a supplier of last resort, but they've got a lot of different stuff.
-- Mike Lyon 408-621-4826 mike.lyon@gmail.com
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On Wednesday 01 May 2013 12:23, Warren Bailey wrote:
Do any of you have a "go to" resource for materials used in installations? Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah?
I have found several places, but I'm curious to know what the nanog ninja's have to say.
Would largely depend on your definition of "datacenter" (customer or operator) and what your corporate policies are. Speaking as the small ISP datacenter maintainer: Tie wraps, misc hardware - HomeDepot/Lowes Patch cords/bulk cable - Monoprice Patch panels/punchdown/custom fiber - Gruber Electrical (equip)/fiber/wall enclosures - Graybar/Tesco Electrical (power) - Local electrical shops/Home depot Adrian
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Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com> writes:
Do any of you have a "go to" resource for materials used in installations? Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah?
For stuff that they carry, Deep Surplus has been acceptable quality and the price is generally right. Others have recommended monoprice but I've found them a bit variable on quality. http://deepsurplus.com -r
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From: Warren Bailey [mailto:wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com]
Do any of you have a "go to" resource for materials used in installations? Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah?
I have found several places, but I'm curious to know what the nanog ninja's have to say.
I use Graybar for the most part. If it's something small or easy, MicroCenter probably has it, but when I need a couple thousand feet of cat[5|5e|6|whatever], a bag of 500 cable ties, a box RJ-48s, etc., it's straight to Graybar. If it's not already on the shelf they can get it quick and their pricing is pretty good. -- Jamie Bowden (jamie@photon.com) Sr. Sys. Admin. (703) 243-6613 x3848 Photon Research Associates 1616 Fort Myer Drive, Suite 1000 Arlington, VA 22209
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