: Cisco has some things like that already, in the training guides : for their Introduction to Cisco Router Configuration (ICRC) and Advanced : Cisco Router Configuration (ACRC) courses, and IIRC all the text is also : on their web site someplace. : Truth is, it's not all that useful without the commentary and : experience of the instructor, especially since the course gets into all : kinds of weird stuff (wanna bridge xns through a tunnel over tcp/ip?), and : barely touches on the type of BGP stuff talked about on this list. Even then, unless you get an instructor who really knows a lot about BGP, there's not much value in the class (at least not ACRC.) Although I can now setup an Appletalk tunnel, the class didn't tell me anything more about anything that I'd ever touched before, or even peripherally investigated. Who needs 4 hours of access-list instruction???? About the most helpful thing I've found as far as learning advanced Cisco stuff is their Internetworking Case Studies. The guide for BGP is at http://www.cisco.com/univercd/data/doc/cintrnet/ics/icsbgp4.htm and I found it to be _extremely_ helpful. The main ICS page is at http://www.cisco.com/univercd/data/doc/cintrnet/ics.htm : However, there're a lot of good examples & FAQs and such on : Cisco's web page if you search around long enough. : : This is not to say that I don't think such a book would be useful, : but I'd really, REALLY hate to see "Cisco for Dummies" 'cause it doesn't : take much for an unclueful person with a Cisco in the right place to : really screw things up for the rest of us. Maybe they'll modify the title to "Cisco for notsomuch-dummies"? Tine Hutchison Network Engineer Interaccess Co. tine@interaccess.com 312/496-4653