On Saturday, February 22, 1997 4:40 PM, Jim Fleming[SMTP:JimFleming@unety.net] wrote: @ On Saturday, February 22, 1997 9:27 AM, Avi Freedman[SMTP:freedman@netaxs.com] wrote: @ @ > Avi, @ @ > @ @ > Do you by any chance know if anyone @ @ > in the State of Pennsylvania has a /8 ? @ @ @ @ I don't think so. @ @ @ @ The State @ @ Hershey @ @ Bethlehem Steel @ @ Prepent @ @ PSU @ @ CMU @ @ The City of Philadelphia (with two /16s) @ @ @ @ None of them seem likely to have an /8. @ @ @ @ > If not, do you have any suggestions on @ @ > who would be a good delegate ? @ @ @ @ I think that my dirty old Blue Jew Canoe (the 1988 Olds Delta 88 that I tool @ @ around town in) would make a good delegate. @ @ @ @ > Jim Fleming @ @ @ @ So you seriously think that delegating /8s around to registries and potentially @ @ starting a bidding war for 'easy' address space (which can be obtained with @ @ money rather than demonstrated need and allocation history) is a good thing? @ @ @ @ Good thing the community doesn't trust you to guard our scarce resources. @ @ Can you define the community ? How can you claim the resources are scarce when ISPs have a tiny fraction of the IPv4 space ? As an ISP, can you explain how you obtained your resources ? or, are "your" resources, "our" resources...? Do all ISPs have the resources you have ? -- Jim Fleming Unir Corporation e-mail: JimFleming@unety.net JimFleming@unety.s0.g0 (EDNS/IPv8)