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Amusingly, this was sent to me *after* I replied to abuse@internap complaining about getting spammed. Anyone else getting spam from this joker? Has he been doing nanog mailing list or arin database harvesting? Anyone know who his boss is? -r
Why contact his boss? It's not like he's on a rogue e-mail campaign, obviously the company told him to do this. Why not focus on more significant spam? Jeff On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Robert E. Seastrom <rs@seastrom.com> wrote:
Amusingly, this was sent to me *after* I replied to abuse@internap complaining about getting spammed.
Anyone else getting spam from this joker? Has he been doing nanog mailing list or arin database harvesting? Anyone know who his boss is?
-r
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Bruce Hoffman" <bhoffman@internap.com> To: rs@seastrom.com Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:54:25 -0400 Subject: Thank-you for your recent participation.
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Jeffrey Lyon <jeffrey.lyon@blacklotus.net> writes:
Why contact his boss? It's not like he's on a rogue e-mail campaign, obviously the company told him to do this. Why not focus on more significant spam?
The "more significant spam" is largely handled by my anti-spam measures. Cluing Internap in to the fact that I not only don't buy from spammers myself but am more than happy to pass the word about their unethical business practices is the honorable and right thing to do. The fact that his e-mail campaign is approved by management does not make it "non-rogue", it only means that upper management is rogue. I have never been (nor now will I ever be) an InterNAP customer. -r
Rob, Sorry about that. Your e-mail address was on an old SalesForce list that we forgot to remove you from. I've followed up internally to make sure it won't happen again. If anyone else gets any unwanted contact from us, please let me know and I'll make sure it's taken care of. Thanks, Scott On Thu 6/24/2010 7:14 AM, Robert E. Seastrom wrote:
Amusingly, this was sent to me *after* I replied to abuse@internap complaining about getting spammed.
Anyone else getting spam from this joker? Has he been doing nanog mailing list or arin database harvesting? Anyone know who his boss is?
-r
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:14:45AM -0400, Robert E. Seastrom wrote:
Amusingly, this was sent to me *after* I replied to abuse@internap complaining about getting spammed.
This spam came from the "icontact" spammers-for-hire: they're absolute filth who have been abusing individuals and mailing lists for years. I recommend blacklisting them permanently. ---Rsk
Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gsp.org> writes:
Amusingly, this was sent to me *after* I replied to abuse@internap complaining about getting spammed.
This spam came from the "icontact" spammers-for-hire: they're absolute filth who have been abusing individuals and mailing lists for years. I recommend blacklisting them permanently.
domains and/or cidrs, plz? -- Paul Vixie KI6YSY
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 04:52:48AM +0000, Paul Vixie wrote:
Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gsp.org> writes:
This spam came from the "icontact" spammers-for-hire: [snip]
domains and/or cidrs, plz?
The spam appears to always come from icpbounce.com, so blocking that on rDNS and/or HELO should suffice. Observed ranges are: 66.192.165.128/28 74.202.227.32/27 216.27.93.0/25 ---Rsk
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Scott Leibrand <scottleibrand@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu 6/24/2010 7:14 AM, Robert E. Seastrom wrote:
Amusingly, this was sent to me *after* I replied to abuse@internap complaining about getting spammed.
If anyone else gets any unwanted contact from us, please let me know and I'll make sure it's taken care of.
Just my tinfoil-coated 2 cents: I tend to assume that when I get an email allegedly from Company A (Internap) but actually sent by Company/Domain B (iContact), inviting me to enter all kinds of sensitive information about my organisation's operations into a "survey" hosted at Domain C (Zoomerang), in return for which I may win a Dell laptop (but only if I give full identity-theft-enabling details about myself), then I'm being socially engineered by a Bad Guy, and I just press "delete". I do this, even when Company A is a big well-known company (e.g. Sun ... it's happened) or an industry magazine (e.g. Secure Computing .. ditto), cos lets face it .. who needs a Dell laptop anyway ;) I urge everyone else to just do the same (at the very least it may help to eliminate UCE merchants from the world). Cheers Nick -- Leave the Olympics in Greece, where they belong.
On 7/10/10 7:26 AM, Nick Boyce wrote:
Just my tinfoil-coated 2 cents:
I tend to assume that when I get an email allegedly from Company A (Internap) but actually sent by Company/Domain B (iContact), inviting me to enter all kinds of sensitive information about my organisation's operations into a "survey" hosted at Domain C (Zoomerang), in return for which I may win a Dell laptop (but only if I give full identity-theft-enabling details about myself), then I'm being socially engineered by a Bad Guy, and I just press "delete".
That doesn't alter Company A's behavior, it reinforces it. As there will be others who fall for it, passively hitting delete does nothing to disprove Company A's idea that doing this type of thing is acceptable. "It got some results and nobody complained." That's how spammers work. Rather than JHD (just hit delete) please try to reach out to someone with technical clue at Company A or their upstream.
I do this, even when Company A is a big well-known company (e.g. Sun ... it's happened)
Sun giving away Dell laptops? O RLY?
or an industry magazine (e.g. Secure Computing .. ditto), cos lets face it .. who needs a Dell laptop anyway ;)
I expect this type of crap from magazines. They've been playing fast and loose with their customers' personal data for decades.
I urge everyone else to just do the same (at the very least it may help to eliminate UCE merchants from the world).
Shaming them is IMHO more effective, although it takes more work. -- Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - jay@impulse.net Impulse Internet Service - http://www.impulse.net/ Your local telephone and internet company - 805 884-6323 - WB6RDV
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 4:08 AM, Jay Hennigan <jay@west.net> wrote:
On 7/10/10 7:26 AM, Nick Boyce wrote:
I tend to assume that when I get an email allegedly from Company A (Internap) but actually sent by Company/Domain B (iContact), inviting me to enter all kinds of sensitive information about my organisation's operations into a "survey" hosted at Domain C (Zoomerang) ... then I'm being socially engineered by a Bad Guy, and I just press "delete". [...] Rather than JHD (just hit delete) please try to reach out to someone with technical clue at Company A or their upstream.
Actually I _do_ do that quite a lot .... much to the amusement of some colleagues who think I complain too much. I'm quite used to contacting abuse@ and security@ teams anyway, so I often just treat these emails as a security issue, and forward them to security@CompanyA stating "Someone is sending email claiming to be from your company but it looks as if they're actually a completely different organisation. You may want to look into this as a possibly fraudulent activity against your employer. If however these emails are genuine then my apologies for wasting your time, but you may wish to forward my email to the relevant marketing department, pointing out how ineffective their campaign will be, due to the number of recipients who will treat it as a scam." However, as I'm sure you will have found, this often results in either (a) no response, or (b) a tedious, painful response dialog with various Company A staff who just don't get it. Only rarely do you get to talk to Someone With A Clue who gets the required policy changes implemented.
I do this, even when Company A is a big well-known company (e.g. Sun ... it's happened)
Sun giving away Dell laptops? O RLY?
[grin] .... no, in their case it was a free iPod as I recall ... wouldn't have minded one of those, except that they won't play OGG media.
Shaming them is IMHO more effective, although it takes more work.
Trouble is, they're almost always outsourcing their campaigns, as part of the western world's obsession with cost cutting by eliminating in-house staff. The MBA whizz-kids who dream it up just won't listen to anything but bottom line. "Incorrect domain name on the sender address ?", they say, "... I'm afraid I don't see the significance. I'm telling you now that ACME Mailshot Campaigns And Surveys Inc. is fully authorised by us". [subtext: my bonus depends on the resulting "savings"] But yes, as and when I can bear it, I do what you suggest. Keep the faith, Nick -- /* affect != effect */ void affect(int *thing,int effect) { *thing += effect; }
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