Sorry to have to state the obvious, but it seems to me that if BBN wishes to terminate peering with Exodus then let them; perhaps their customers will follow suit by terminating their agreements with BBN. It seems like the only logical thing that could happen. BBN is almost certainly doing their customers a huge disservice by terminating peering with the largest web hosting facility in the business. I have to assume that BBN users *like* using HotBot and GeoCities, just two of the many major players hosted at Exodus. The Internet has always been about sharing, in this case, the free exchange of traffic and routes by peers. If BBN wants to screw with that then I hope they're willing to live with the consequences. BTW, it was mentioned somewhere else in this thread that someone thought that Exodus buys transit. They don't, I know, I used to work there. Rob would never do that... :) Henry R. Linneweh said:

...toasted ISP's and carriers destroyed by blind people's greed and inability to manage a global network...

Failure of management is the crux to this issue and maintaining what has worked for over 20 years. That to states there are some people in serious need of sacking in some boardrooms.....

You said a mouthful there, Henry. My thoughts exactly... --- Lawrence A. Deleski lad@inficad.com "Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man how to fish and he'll sit in his boat and drink beer all day". ----------

From: "Jay R. Ashworth" <jra@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us> To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: BBN Peering issues Date: Thu, Aug 13, 1998, 9:41 PM

On Wed, Aug 12, 1998 at 09:39:46AM -0400, Adam Rothschild wrote:

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If anyone would like to communicate privately about the BBN Peering issues, please drop me an email, or call.

I would like to communicate openly and publicly about this.

What I would like more than anything right now is some official word from high-up's at BBN regarding what this policy entails exactly, and what their rationale is behind it.

That is, a public explanation other than the all-too-obvious "We're greedy. Welcome to the business world. We're not going to change our minds, so shut the fuck up and buy some transit, you dumb suckers."

Based on just that little slice of the conversation, is BBN doing what UUnet apparently failed in _it's_ attempt to do last fall, to Jack Rickard's (and my) vast amusement?

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