Thanks everyone for your input today on this topic. I wanted to recap with a list of sites that everyone has suggested both online and offline for FYI purposes. http://www.vmware.com/products/vcloud-director/ http://www.microsoft.com/systemcenter/en/us/default.aspx http://cloud.com http://www.gogrid.com/ http://www.digitalmines.com http://www.proxmox.com/products/proxmox-ve http://www.openqrm-enterprise.com/ http://www.openstack.org/
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 13:42:10 -0500 From: rali@tifosi.com To: brandon.kim@brandontek.com Subject: Re: OT: VM slicing and dicing
Brandon Kim wrote:
<> I'm not looking for companies that offer this service, but the <> actual software engines that allow you to create VM's on the fly. So a <> customer goes to your website and says I want Win2008 with 8gigs of <> RAM and 120gigs of HDD. Just like custom configuring a new PC. <> <> Does anyone here have experience or knowledge of companies that <> offer this type of software engine?
OpenStack may be (at least part) of what you're looking for. The primary development is from NASA and RackSpace:
I have no experience of my own with it yet, but am planning an eval of it.
Reto -- R A Lichtensteiger rali@tifosi.com
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On 11/9/2010 2:38 PM, Brandon Kim wrote:
Thanks everyone for your input today on this topic. I wanted to recap with a list of sites that everyone has suggested both online and offline for FYI purposes.
I haven't used system center, but have been very happy with Microsofts other management offerings. In particular the combination of WMI and Active Directory is pretty slick. Now days with W2k8 Server Core and VM friendly licensing, the Microsoft OS density on a hardware node is starting to approach Linux density levels.
I use Proxmox exclusively and am very happy with it. It's a great product. You might need to do a bit of CLI work if you want to support multiple VLANS or other slightly advanced features. I'm lazy but I might get around to patching the web UI at some point to support the stuff I do manually. The OpenVZ docs are very clear and the process is pretty trivial to do on the CLI.
This has received some serious attention from me, but it seemed a bit heavy on the startup requirements and it wanted to own my entire infrastructure. Proxmox was just plug and play and reduced the effort to deploy virtual machines. Anyone here using openqrm? How demanding is it? Can you just utilize the pieces you want? These days most users have existing systems in place to handle storage, security, monitoring, os configuration management etc. I guess if you are a completely new startup, then OpenQRM might make sense.
Ah yes. The new comer of sorts. Anyone looked at this in detail? Beta deployed it?
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Charles N Wyble wrote:
I use Proxmox exclusively and am very happy with it. It's a great product. You might need to do a bit of CLI work if you want to support multiple VLANS or other slightly advanced features. I'm lazy but I might get around to patching the web UI at some point to support the stuff I do manually. The OpenVZ docs are very clear and the process is pretty trivial to do on the CLI.
I've used OpenVZ at many sites and been really happy with it. Managing OpenVZ from the CLI is easy. I wrote wrapper scripts to perform the desired functions. It has extensive documentation available. From a documentation point of view it really stands out among OSS and even commercial apps. Cheers, Rob -- Email: robert@timetraveller.org Linux counter ID #16440 IRC: Solver (OFTC & Freenode) Web: http://www.practicalsysadmin.com Contributing member of Software in the Public Interest (http://spi-inc.org/) Open Source: The revolution that silently changed the world
On 11/12/2010 12:09 PM, Robert Brockway wrote:
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Charles N Wyble wrote:
I use Proxmox exclusively and am very happy with it. It's a great product. You might need to do a bit of CLI work if you want to support multiple VLANS or other slightly advanced features. I'm lazy but I might get around to patching the web UI at some point to support the stuff I do manually. The OpenVZ docs are very clear and the process is pretty trivial to do on the CLI.
Managing OpenVZ from the CLI is easy. I wrote wrapper scripts to perform the desired functions.
Yeah. It's very easy. Proxmox is for super lazy people like me. :)
It has extensive documentation available. From a documentation point of view it really stands out among OSS and even commercial apps.
Yes. The documentation is fantastic. Top notch. OpenVZ is very simple and utilizes existing features in Linux directly. As opposed to XEN (at least as it ships with centos 5) which utilizes an entire super structure of complex shell scripts to do it's networking setup. If you have a few years of server admin experience it's very easy to get up and going. You can utilize all your existing CLI knowledge.
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Robert Brockway <robert@timetraveller.org> wrote:
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Charles N Wyble wrote:
I use Proxmox exclusively and am very happy with it. It's a great product. You might need to do a bit of CLI work if you want to support multiple VLANS or other slightly advanced features. I'm lazy but I might get around to patching the web UI at some point to support the stuff I do manually. The OpenVZ docs are very clear and the process is pretty trivial to do on the CLI.
I've used OpenVZ at many sites and been really happy with it.
Managing OpenVZ from the CLI is easy. I wrote wrapper scripts to perform the desired functions.
It has extensive documentation available. From a documentation point of view it really stands out among OSS and even commercial apps.
Make sure you have sized the beancounters (resource limits) for your applications and workload. With the default beancounter settings, a default centos5 install of postfix (100 process max -- per service, ie 100 smtpd and 100 smtp) or dovecot (100 each for imap/pop3, etc.) you will run into limits very quickly. Using vzsplit helps a lot.
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