On Thu, 31 Jul 1997, Al Smith wrote: ==>I thought this list was created to be used in mind for reporting ==>problems with the internet as well as failure's and cuts. Not to be a ==>bitch board for people to complain. No. The NANOG list was designed to discuss OPERATIONAL issues. That means current operational problems, not politics or mutiny discussions. It's not a list to report problems. People should report their problems to their upstream. If you don't have an upstream, find one of your engineers. If you are an engineer, then consider your post for operational content before sending it out. Works quite well, actually. /cah