Anyone else gotten mail from John Lucania at atlantixglobal.com today? He lists his phone numbers as: 770.582.7248 Direct and 404.287.2603 Cell Why not give him a ring (preferably on his cell phone, maybe tonight?) and tell him what you think of spammers? :-) -r
You can always excuse you are reading his add from the other side of the globe and did not know it was night over there :) Cheers Peter Robert E. Seastrom wrote:
Anyone else gotten mail from John Lucania at atlantixglobal.com today?
He lists his phone numbers as:
770.582.7248 Direct and 404.287.2603 Cell
Why not give him a ring (preferably on his cell phone, maybe tonight?) and tell him what you think of spammers? :-)
-r
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Dear Robert; I feel that this is not appropriate for this list. Anyone on this list might have valid or nefarious reasons to wish to DOS someone else. This list is not an appropriate means of organizing that. I have not received such mail. I have no way of verifying whether or not you have. I don't know J.L. and don't even see him as a contributor to this list. Now, I know you, but there are way too many people on this list to know them all, or for them to all know you (or me, or anyone else). And, email addresses can be spoofed. And, not everyone reads NANOG faithfully all the time, so a spoof might not be detected for some time. I think you can see the potential for mischief here. Regards Marshall On Sep 25, 2008, at 3:28 PM, Robert E. Seastrom wrote:
Anyone else gotten mail from John Lucania at atlantixglobal.com today?
He lists his phone numbers as:
770.582.7248 Direct and 404.287.2603 Cell
Why not give him a ring (preferably on his cell phone, maybe tonight?) and tell him what you think of spammers? :-)
-r
Now, I know you, but there are way too many people on this list to know them all, or for them to all know you (or me, or anyone else).
This caused me to go "aha" and I counted up unique accesses to the URL of the rack diagram I posted yesterday, and came up with 185. Assuming that most people aren't using clients that automatically display URL's in non-HTML e-mail, and that power strip configurations within a rack is a topic of interest to a small subset of subscribers, it seems apparent that there are probably thousands of people reading NANOG traffic on at least a daily basis. It is often easy to forget how many people you're sending to when you're sending to a mailing list. ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net "We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN) With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.
From the meeting records and about 10 years of mailing list archives, I count about 600 active participants in NANOG, with about 200 core members who continue year after year, while the remainder of
The size of a mailing list can be judged from its participants over a long time, and from meeting attendence records. Every participant in a list eventually sends at least one message to a mailing list. Those who don't ever send a message are just monitoring the list; those people aren't participants. participants will quit participating. NANOG doesn't report the size of its mailing list, but does report its meeting attendance and its budget. NANOG spends about $180,000 per year; $50,000 of this appears to come from ARIN [improperly--the transfer violates ARIN 501(c6) tax status, and was approved by NANOG-affiliated Board members with undisclosed conflict of interest in the transaction]. However, this amount does not represent the budget of a very large organization. Considering that there are about 3000 members of ARIN, and many more ISP like organizations that don't have their own direct allocations, or who are legacy block owners (which aren't ARIN members automatically); considering that even limited to just the North American region of ARIN, there are tens, perhaps hundreds of thousands of ISP operations employees; NANOG represents a very, very few. But the core 200 members are unusually influential, and this is a matter of some interest. --Dean On Fri, 26 Sep 2008, Joe Greco wrote:
Now, I know you, but there are way too many people on this list to know them all, or for them to all know you (or me, or anyone else).
This caused me to go "aha" and I counted up unique accesses to the URL of the rack diagram I posted yesterday, and came up with 185.
Assuming that most people aren't using clients that automatically display URL's in non-HTML e-mail, and that power strip configurations within a rack is a topic of interest to a small subset of subscribers, it seems apparent that there are probably thousands of people reading NANOG traffic on at least a daily basis.
It is often easy to forget how many people you're sending to when you're sending to a mailing list.
... JG
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All, I just crushed John's foot accidently with my chair, so he wants to know if we're even? Randy -----Original Message----- From: Marshall Eubanks [mailto:tme@multicasttech.com] Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:48 AM To: Robert E. Seastrom Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: once again, network hardware vendors spamming... Dear Robert; I feel that this is not appropriate for this list. Anyone on this list might have valid or nefarious reasons to wish to DOS someone else. This list is not an appropriate means of organizing that. I have not received such mail. I have no way of verifying whether or not you have. I don't know J.L. and don't even see him as a contributor to this list. Now, I know you, but there are way too many people on this list to know them all, or for them to all know you (or me, or anyone else). And, email addresses can be spoofed. And, not everyone reads NANOG faithfully all the time, so a spoof might not be detected for some time. I think you can see the potential for mischief here. Regards Marshall On Sep 25, 2008, at 3:28 PM, Robert E. Seastrom wrote:
Anyone else gotten mail from John Lucania at atlantixglobal.com today?
He lists his phone numbers as:
770.582.7248 Direct and 404.287.2603 Cell
Why not give him a ring (preferably on his cell phone, maybe tonight?) and tell him what you think of spammers? :-)
-r
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