North Korea conflict with US and South Korea could spark cyber war
n3td3v Security is monitoring the situation between North Korea, US and South Korea. North Korea has already threatened to use its nuclear arms when the "wargames" begin Sunday by United States and South Korea, but n3td3v Security predicts North Korea is planning a large scale cyber attack on US interests. We could really see the first cyber war proper here when it all kicks off Sunday between US, S.Korea and the North. n3td3v Security is warning critical infrastructure utility companies to keep an eye on its cyber assets incase NK's cyber command launch any attack. Andrew Wallace http://sites.google.com/site/n3td3v/
I cant check that link out right now, but if what you say is true, this would be very serious. Can anyone confirm this? On 7/24/10, andrew.wallace <andrew.wallace@rocketmail.com> wrote:
n3td3v Security is monitoring the situation between North Korea, US and South Korea.
North Korea has already threatened to use its nuclear arms when the "wargames" begin Sunday by United States and South Korea, but n3td3v Security predicts North Korea is planning a large scale cyber attack on US interests.
We could really see the first cyber war proper here when it all kicks off Sunday between US, S.Korea and the North.
n3td3v Security is warning critical infrastructure utility companies to keep an eye on its cyber assets incase NK's cyber command launch any attack.
Andrew Wallace
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James, 1. cyberwar is bullsh*t, always has been, always will be. 2. we are risking a "cyberwar" (which is, as previously mentioned, bullsh*t) with North Korea which can't even feed itself, let alone buy things like computers, or real internet access. So, yes you can knock out root name servers for a few hours, it has been done by the way, and only people on this list really noticed. The tactical loss of those name servers won't slow down the components of the US military which are now bombing your country. With this point we get to why cyberwar is bullsh*t. Bombs blow stuff up, soldiers shoot and kill people, tanks blow stuff up, big ships with huge cannons blow stuff up. This sort of stuff has to be rebuilt. Launching a crippling internet attack slow down the flow of e-mail, and while this might make our day a bit harder if the blackberry doesn't beep happily every minute and a half, in comparison to bombing, or getting shot, or blown up, or shelled by battleships, e-mail is pretty insignificant. Andrew On 7/24/2010 6:49 PM, James Bensley wrote:
I cant check that link out right now, but if what you say is true, this would be very serious. Can anyone confirm this?
On 7/24/10, andrew.wallace<andrew.wallace@rocketmail.com> wrote:
n3td3v Security is monitoring the situation between North Korea, US and South Korea.
North Korea has already threatened to use its nuclear arms when the "wargames" begin Sunday by United States and South Korea, but n3td3v Security predicts North Korea is planning a large scale cyber attack on US interests.
We could really see the first cyber war proper here when it all kicks off Sunday between US, S.Korea and the North.
n3td3v Security is warning critical infrastructure utility companies to keep an eye on its cyber assets incase NK's cyber command launch any attack.
Andrew Wallace
On 7/24/10 3:49 PM, "James Bensley" <jwbensley@gmail.com> wrote:
I cant check that link out right now, but if what you say is true, this would be very serious. Can anyone confirm this?
The North Koreans have historically threatened to go to war whenever the US and South Korea are performing military exercises in the region. I have no idea how the threat of nuclear conflict equates to a cyber attack. Perhaps n3td3v would like to provide something a little more concrete about the origin of their prediction. Mike
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:22:56 -0700 (PDT), "andrew.wallace" <andrew.wallace@rocketmail.com> wrote:
n3td3v Security is monitoring the situation between North Korea, US and South Korea.
North Korea has already threatened to use its nuclear arms when the "wargames" begin Sunday by United States and South Korea, but n3td3v Security predicts North Korea is planning a large scale cyber attack on US interests.
We could really see the first cyber war proper here when it all kicks off Sunday between US, S.Korea and the North.
n3td3v Security is warning critical infrastructure utility companies to keep an eye on its cyber assets incase NK's cyber command launch any attack.
Andrew Wallace
Can you provide information to back this up? At first glance glance I am having a hard time believing this is anything but speculation, but would be interested to hear more.
On 7/24/2010 7:44 PM, Ryan Rawdon wrote:
Can you provide information to back this up? At first glance glance I am having a hard time believing this is anything but speculation, but would be interested to hear more.
That is because n3td3v is a troll. Please do not feed, thx. Andrew
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010, Andrew Kirch wrote:
On 7/24/2010 7:44 PM, Ryan Rawdon wrote:
Can you provide information to back this up? At first glance glance I am having a hard time believing this is anything but speculation, but would be interested to hear more.
That is because n3td3v is a troll. Please do not feed, thx.
It does indeed seem to be tool/net.kook day here on NANOG. I didn't check to see if there is supposed to be a full moon tonight. jms
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:23 AM, Roy <r.engehausen@gmail.com> wrote:
On 7/24/2010 2:10 PM, Justin M. Streiner wrote:
... It does indeed seem to be tool/net.kook day here on NANOG. I didn't check to see if there is supposed to be a full moon tonight.
jms
Close! Full Moon on 25 July 2010 at 9:37 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time.
They should be banned from Nanog, the rules state: "Postings that include foul language, character assassination, and lack of respect for other participants are prohibited." http://nanog.org/mailinglist/ Andrew Wallace
Maybe we should check snopes.com. Haha. Excuse the spelling/punctuation, this is sent from my mobile device... ChrisFenton On Jul 24, 2010, at 4:46 PM, "Ryan Rawdon" <ryan@u13.net> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:22:56 -0700 (PDT), "andrew.wallace" <andrew.wallace@rocketmail.com> wrote:
n3td3v Security is monitoring the situation between North Korea, US and South Korea.
North Korea has already threatened to use its nuclear arms when the "wargames" begin Sunday by United States and South Korea, but n3td3v Security predicts North Korea is planning a large scale cyber attack on US interests.
We could really see the first cyber war proper here when it all kicks off Sunday between US, S.Korea and the North.
n3td3v Security is warning critical infrastructure utility companies to keep an eye on its cyber assets incase NK's cyber command launch any attack.
Andrew Wallace
Can you provide information to back this up? At first glance glance I am having a hard time believing this is anything but speculation, but would be interested to hear more.
/agree Looks like a stunt to drive traffic to his blog unless he actually has something to back this up. Mr. Wallace: I think I speak for a majority of the members on this list when I say that we are busy enough dealing with real business. Please do not sacrifice the professionalism of this list for baseless predictions or PR. -----Original Message----- From: Chris Fenton <Chrisf@apcon.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 00:10:47 To: Ryan Rawdon<ryan@u13.net> Cc: nanog@nanog.org<nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: North Korea conflict with US and South Korea could spark cyber war Maybe we should check snopes.com. Haha. Excuse the spelling/punctuation, this is sent from my mobile device... ChrisFenton On Jul 24, 2010, at 4:46 PM, "Ryan Rawdon" <ryan@u13.net> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:22:56 -0700 (PDT), "andrew.wallace" <andrew.wallace@rocketmail.com> wrote:
n3td3v Security is monitoring the situation between North Korea, US and South Korea.
North Korea has already threatened to use its nuclear arms when the "wargames" begin Sunday by United States and South Korea, but n3td3v Security predicts North Korea is planning a large scale cyber attack on US interests.
We could really see the first cyber war proper here when it all kicks off Sunday between US, S.Korea and the North.
n3td3v Security is warning critical infrastructure utility companies to keep an eye on its cyber assets incase NK's cyber command launch any attack.
Andrew Wallace
Can you provide information to back this up? At first glance glance I am having a hard time believing this is anything but speculation, but would be interested to hear more.
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