At 10:23 AM 12/15/99 +0200, Hank Nussbacher wrote: At 19:30 14/12/99 -0500, David Diaz wrote:

For peering, the most recent thorough analysis would be: http://www.data.com/issue/991007/peering.html They cover private and public peering. Too bad Data Communications is now defunct and folded into some other network wannabbe rag.

Robin did a nice job of raising some of the peering politics in this article. The positioning of the peering issues however as "the little guys vs. big guys" is counterproductive. It makes for good drama, but doesn't get us closer to a scalable well-connected well-engineered global Internet. There continue to be movements backstage to break the free peering vs. paid transit extremes into more of a continuum of options (like real cheap peering or settlement-based transit). This is where the parameters quantify "value" each ISP brings to the table. (But we won't go there lest I fetch my asbestos attire ;) )

-Hank

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Well at the last nanog there was a get together to exchange peering contract info. Bill Norton has compiled that into a list. That would get you a long way there for getting peering information.

Right. The URL below includes the slides and an early draft of the paper that is basically the narrative that describes the Peering Process slides: http://www.nanog.org/mtg-9910/peering.html The paper describes (in rough terms) the peering coordinator mindset - how they think of and approach peering, the decision-making process, etc. This paper was initially written for some non-US ISP friends who were interested in establishing a US presence to use the US as a backhaul to another continent and obtain peering as an aside. If any ISP Peering Coordinator wants to get listed and obtain a copy of the Peering Contact Database, send me e-mail (wbn@umich.edu) with the relevant contact information (Contact Name & Title, Company Name, address, AS #, peering@<ispdomain>.net address for peering, phone numbers, etc.). I'll send back the Peering Contact Database & the latest version of the Peering Decision Tree document (v1.1 now). Note: These are Excel & Word documents today.

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The major backbones usually have peering@ setup. That along with the boardwatch should be a good start.

Agreed - as a side note, I found it interesting that almost all ISP listed have a peering@ispdomain.net pseudo-standard in addition to their own e-mail address. Peering is both a systematic and personal interaction today. I'm also seeing a lot more AP ISPs coming in. Hope this helps - Bill