Re: a little thought on exchanging traffic
Anyone thought about eliminating large physical exchange points and replacing them with a more distributed architecture?
Yes, lots of folks have given it lots of thought.
Multiple data centers interconnected over ATM in a single metro area run by indepdenant entities who are free to provide any level of service or value add they wish.
The fundamental problem is there are no magic pixie dust in this business. Sure, some people like to put out press releases saying how they've solved all the worlds problems using the Magic Frambulator. But what they've usually done is ignored half the problem. The Sanfrancisco NAP is actually a distributed architecture of several ATM switches around the bay area. And although the SF-NAP is handling far less traffic than MAE-East on a daily basis, it too has suffered from the problems of congested trunk lines between the switches. There have been other proposals too. Most of the 'solutions' I've seen have had either far fewer number of interconnects, or far less total cross-connect bandwidth. It seems to be very difficult to get both. When they get close to either the number of connections, or the amount of traffic, they seem to run into the same walls. -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation
On Wed, 20 May 1998, Sean Donelan wrote:
The fundamental problem is there are no magic pixie dust in this business. Sure, some people like to put out press releases saying how they've solved all the worlds problems using the Magic Frambulator. But what they've usually done is ignored half the problem.
Hey, I saw one of those new Magic ones last week at "Frambulators R Us". Way too expensive though, we've had to stick to good old fashioned Clockwork Frambulators (electric ones still being unreliable, and steam-powered ones outlawed under Californian emissions legislation). :-) Paul ---- P Mansfield, Senior SysAdmin PSINet, +44-1223-577577x2611/577611 fax:577600 *** If a grand piano had a rubout key, I'd be a concert pianist by now! ***
At 7:18 AM -0400 5/20/98, Sean Donelan wrote:
The fundamental problem is there are no magic pixie dust in this business. Sure, some people like to put out press releases saying how they've solved all the worlds problems using the Magic Frambulator. But what they've usually done is ignored half the problem.
Ohmygod! We're out of magic pixie dust!?! The Internet will collapse in 30 minutes!!! How could the Internic let this happen? I'd like to propose an RFC for conserving pixie dust. Maybe a non-profit arm of the Internic to allocate magic pixie dust on a fair and equal basis... --Dean ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Plain Aviation, Inc dean@av8.com LAN/WAN/UNIX/NT/TCPIP/DCE http://www.av8.com We Make IT Fly! (617)242-3091 x246 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Dean Anderson writes:
At 7:18 AM -0400 5/20/98, Sean Donelan wrote:
The fundamental problem is there are no magic pixie dust in this business. Sure, some people like to put out press releases saying how they've solved all the worlds problems using the Magic Frambulator. But what they've usual ly done is ignored half the problem.
Ohmygod! We're out of magic pixie dust!?! The Internet will collapse in 30 minutes!!! How could the Internic let this happen?
I'd like to propose an RFC for conserving pixie dust. Maybe a non-profit arm of the Internic to allocate magic pixie dust on a fair and equal basis...
The pixie dust is held exclusively by the IETF's Security Area Directorate, and Jeff Schiller distributes it when circumstances require it. .pm
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