Inside plant 10G fiber specs?
I am working up network specs for a new building, and trying to accomodate a 10G distribution from the start. The safe bet of running singlemode everywhere doesn't quite fit due to cost of the optics and the need for multimode for some other (non-network) devices anyway. We have a legacy 62.5u/MM campus, inside and out. The 100M to 1G transition led to some outside plant singlemode additions due to length restrictions on MM (even with conditioned LH optics), but the inside plant gig was fine with multimode (typically SH optics). 10G appears to break the inside 62.5u/MM fit, with the addition that there is no option of "LH over MM" for the little extra push beyond the SH limit that worked with 1G optics. Cisco's references give 10G SH over 62.5u/MM at 26m or 33m, depending on the "modal bandwidth" of the fiber. At those distances it is of little benefit except some limited vertical risers. 10G over 50u/MM looks better, depending on the "modal bandwidth" of the fiber (66m, 82m, 300m). So, a couple of questions... (1) Do you have a good vendor specification (or sample cables) for multistrand 50u/MM suitable for the 2000Mhz/km (300m) advertised reach? (2) Inter-operability issues with legacy equipment where we have always used 62.5? We have at least two alarm half-duplex loops over 62.5 that will have to "mate" with devices in this building... if I can avoid running both types MM that would be great. (3) Any other considerations or words of advice would be welcomed. Thanks in advance. Jeff
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 02:16:53PM -0400, Jeff Kell wrote:
I am working up network specs for a new building, and trying to accomodate a 10G distribution from the start. The safe bet of running singlemode everywhere doesn't quite fit due to cost of the optics and the need for multimode for some other (non-network) devices anyway.
Pull a hybrid MM/SM cable. For the life expectancy of most fiber installs, you'll want the SM to run 10G now, and 40G, 100G, ?? in the future over the same infrastructure. SM optics aren't really that much more expensive anymore.
Bullpucky with regards to 10G optics cost. (1G we can agree on) You can do SPF+ 10G LRM for 220M of shiny-light goodness for 280 bucks. LR is nearly 4 times that much. We find that 220 gets us to most places in the building. Jeff- As far as fiber goes we spec sumitomo or corning and try to stick to LRM optics when we can. Michael Balasko CCSP, MCSE Network Specialist II City of Henderson, Nevada 240 Water St. Henderson, Nevada 89015 702.267.4337 -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Anderson [mailto:cra@WPI.EDU] Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 12:18 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Inside plant 10G fiber specs? On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 02:16:53PM -0400, Jeff Kell wrote:
I am working up network specs for a new building, and trying to accomodate a 10G distribution from the start. The safe bet of running singlemode everywhere doesn't quite fit due to cost of the optics and the need for multimode for some other (non-network) devices anyway.
Pull a hybrid MM/SM cable. For the life expectancy of most fiber installs, you'll want the SM to run 10G now, and 40G, 100G, ?? in the future over the same infrastructure. SM optics aren't really that much more expensive anymore.
On 3/14/10 11:16 AM, Jeff Kell wrote:
10G over 50u/MM looks better, depending on the "modal bandwidth" of the fiber (66m, 82m, 300m).
Yep, that last one would be the "laser optimized" variant. You won't be excluding 1G optics by using laser optimized fiber, but you need it to get the same reach on 10G. ~Seth
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Chuck Anderson
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Jeff Kell
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Michael Balasko
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Seth Mattinen