historical BGP announcements? (pre-1997)
I've got a need to look for some announcements from the mid 1990s. The oldest I've found at at the University of Oregon Route Views Project, but the earliest I can find there appears to be November of 1997. Anyone have pointers to date from earlier?
On May 6, 2019, at 12:47 PM, John Osmon <josmon@rigozsaurus.com> wrote:
I've got a need to look for some announcements from the mid 1990s. The oldest I've found at at the University of Oregon Route Views Project, but the earliest I can find there appears to be November of 1997.
That’s when PCH began archiving them (and subsequently turned that archive over to U of O). We weren’t aware of anyone publicly archiving transit routes prior to that. -Bill
Hey John, Just out of curiosity, what do you need this data for? On Mon, May 6, 2019, 3:53 PM Bill Woodcock <woody@pch.net> wrote:
On May 6, 2019, at 12:47 PM, John Osmon <josmon@rigozsaurus.com> wrote:
I've got a need to look for some announcements from the mid 1990s. The oldest I've found at at the University of Oregon Route Views Project, but the earliest I can find there appears to be November of 1997.
That’s when PCH began archiving them (and subsequently turned that archive over to U of O). We weren’t aware of anyone publicly archiving transit routes prior to that.
-Bill
I've got a need to look for some announcements from the mid 1990s. The oldest I've found at at the University of Oregon Route Views Project, but the earliest I can find there appears to be November of 1997.
Anyone have pointers to date from earlier?
sorry, that was the start of public route collection. nothing earlier. randy
On Mon, May 06, 2019 at 01:47:24PM -0600, John Osmon wrote:
I've got a need to look for some announcements from the mid 1990s. The oldest I've found at at the University of Oregon Route Views Project, but the earliest I can find there appears to be November of 1997.
Anyone have pointers to date from earlier?
Collected announcements? None that I know of. A possible proxy for them? Maybe. Dig through the NSFNET NACR archives, and you can at least build a list of possible announcements. (The same is probably true of any old PRDB data kicking around out there, and the NSS configs.) --msa
Just in case someone has, or finds, historic BGP data sitting, CAIDA would be willing to host it.
On May 6, 2019, at 8:15 PM, Majdi S. Abbas <msa@latt.net> wrote:
On Mon, May 06, 2019 at 01:47:24PM -0600, John Osmon wrote:
I've got a need to look for some announcements from the mid 1990s. The oldest I've found at at the University of Oregon Route Views Project, but the earliest I can find there appears to be November of 1997.
Anyone have pointers to date from earlier?
Collected announcements? None that I know of. A possible proxy for them? Maybe.
Dig through the NSFNET NACR archives, and you can at least build a list of possible announcements. (The same is probably true of any old PRDB data kicking around out there, and the NSS configs.)
--msa
somewhere, I have a DVD of the Route Server logs from when we first turned up the NSF/NAPS (circa 1994) until the UO service came online. I know I offered them to CAIDA at one time. Don't remember anything happening. (not that it matters, but I also have the RFC 1918 blackhole server logs from inception until 2002.) /Wm On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 12:39 PM Bradley Huffaker <bhuffake@caida.org> wrote:
Just in case someone has, or finds, historic BGP data sitting, CAIDA would be willing to host it.
On May 6, 2019, at 8:15 PM, Majdi S. Abbas <msa@latt.net> wrote:
On Mon, May 06, 2019 at 01:47:24PM -0600, John Osmon wrote:
I've got a need to look for some announcements from the mid 1990s. The oldest I've found at at the University of Oregon Route Views Project, but the earliest I can find there appears to be November of 1997.
Anyone have pointers to date from earlier?
Collected announcements? None that I know of. A possible proxy for them? Maybe.
Dig through the NSFNET NACR archives, and you can at least build a list of possible announcements. (The same is probably true of any old PRDB data kicking around out there, and the NSS configs.)
--msa
On May 7, 2019, at 4:12 PM, william manning <chinese.apricot@gmail.com> wrote:
somewhere, I have a DVD of the Route Server logs from when we first turned up the NSF/NAPS (circa 1994) until the UO service came online.
Well, if you ever run across them again, I’m sure Brad and Steve and I would all be happy to publish them. -Bill
i am wondering if there is an archive of whatevertheheckweusedtocallthem before they were swips. began with r i think. what curtis processed every wednesday. randy
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