new NAP in St. Louis?
A colleague who isn't subscribed to NANOG-post wanted me to forward this question. It seems that an outfit called 'LevelOne' has announced they are opening a NAP in St. Louis, but neither he nor I have heard of them before. Anybody on the list with prior experience, or even hearsay, that could confirm/deny or shed some additional light? thanks, -- Scott Francis darkuncle@ [home:] d a r k u n c l e . n e t UNIX | IP networks | security | sysadmin | caffeine | BOFH | general geekery GPG public key 0xCB33CCA7 illum oportet crescere me autem minui
On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 12:33:28PM -0800, darkuncle@darkuncle.net said:
A colleague who isn't subscribed to NANOG-post wanted me to forward this question. It seems that an outfit called 'LevelOne' has announced they are
s/Level/Layer/ sorry about that. -- Scott Francis darkuncle@ [home:] d a r k u n c l e . n e t UNIX | IP networks | security | sysadmin | caffeine | BOFH | general geekery GPG public key 0xCB33CCA7 illum oportet crescere me autem minui
I am not sure of what Layer one is building in St. Louis qualifies as a NAP in terms of exisiting NAP's (maybe a Mini-NAP) but they have been putting together a product referred to as a NEXUS Optical Distribution Exchange....you can find more information on this offering at www.colosource.com under the white paper section. The paper is Exchanging Problems For Profits: The NEXUS Optical Distribution Exchange. Hope this helps, Kevin --- Scott Francis <darkuncle@darkuncle.net> wrote:
On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 12:33:28PM -0800, darkuncle@darkuncle.net said:
A colleague who isn't subscribed to NANOG-post wanted me to forward this question. It seems that an outfit called 'LevelOne' has announced they are
s/Level/Layer/
sorry about that.
-- Scott Francis darkuncle@ [home:] d a r k u n c l e . n e t UNIX | IP networks | security | sysadmin | caffeine | BOFH | general geekery GPG public key 0xCB33CCA7 illum oportet crescere me autem minui
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I published an extensive interview with Layer One in May of this year. Executive summary is available at http://cookreport.com/10.02.shtml
I am not sure of what Layer one is building in St. Louis qualifies as a NAP in terms of exisiting NAP's (maybe a Mini-NAP) but they have been putting together a product referred to as a NEXUS Optical Distribution Exchange....you can find more information on this offering at www.colosource.com under the white paper section. The paper is Exchanging Problems For Profits: The NEXUS Optical Distribution Exchange.
Hope this helps,
Kevin
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LayerOne is primarily focused on carrier-to-carrier, which is traditionally accomplished by private SONET interconnects at Carrier hotels or ILEC facilities. The "private peering" fashion of these interconnects is technically suboptimal, and recently obsolete with massive broadband DCS products like Ciena Coredirector that can make carrier interconnection much cheaper, more scalable, in much less footprint. But... private SONET interconnects fit the business strategy just fine, as carriers are just as aggressive as any ISP at letting business issues drive interconnect and claiming lack of space or other provisioning issues for stonewalling requests they don't want to answer. running type-2 circuits thru a neutral-run DCS places alot of trust in that point, whereas SONET ADM-to-ADM private interconnects are nicely distributed and therefore a failure has minimal impact. Cheers, -Lane On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 02:10:49PM -0800, Kevin Facinelli <ksfacinelli@yahoo.com> wrote:
I am not sure of what Layer one is building in St. Louis qualifies as a NAP in terms of exisiting NAP's (maybe a Mini-NAP) but they have been putting together a product referred to as a NEXUS Optical Distribution Exchange....you can find more information on this offering at www.colosource.com under the white paper section. The paper is Exchanging Problems For Profits: The NEXUS Optical Distribution Exchange.
Hope this helps,
Kevin
--- Scott Francis <darkuncle@darkuncle.net> wrote:
On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 12:33:28PM -0800, darkuncle@darkuncle.net said:
A colleague who isn't subscribed to NANOG-post wanted me to forward this question. It seems that an outfit called 'LevelOne' has announced they are
s/Level/Layer/
sorry about that.
-- Scott Francis darkuncle@ [home:] d a r k u n c l e . n e t UNIX | IP networks | security | sysadmin | caffeine | BOFH | general geekery GPG public key 0xCB33CCA7 illum oportet crescere me autem minui
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They are a colo provider startup. (www.layerone.com). I would imagine someone at layerone is going to throw a switch in a rack in their colo and declare it a public peering point. Unfortunately, demand for public peering in secondary markets has never been high, even when telecom was at it's peak. - Daniel Golding
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Scott Francis Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 3:33 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: new NAP in St. Louis?
A colleague who isn't subscribed to NANOG-post wanted me to forward this question. It seems that an outfit called 'LevelOne' has announced they are opening a NAP in St. Louis, but neither he nor I have heard of them before. Anybody on the list with prior experience, or even hearsay, that could confirm/deny or shed some additional light?
thanks, -- Scott Francis darkuncle@ [home:] d a r k u n c l e . n e t UNIX | IP networks | security | sysadmin | caffeine | BOFH | general geekery GPG public key 0xCB33CCA7 illum oportet crescere me autem minui
Thanks to all who replied - I now know much more about LayerOne than I did before, and have passed the info on to my friend in St. Louis. cheers, -- Scott Francis darkuncle@ [home:] d a r k u n c l e . n e t UNIX | IP networks | security | sysadmin | caffeine | BOFH | general geekery GPG public key 0xCB33CCA7 illum oportet crescere me autem minui
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