Cross posting sucks. However, this is a special case as this discussion really ought to move to NANOG without losing context. Please edit headers to make sure replies go *only* to NANOG. On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:55:41 -0700 "Kenneth Porter" wrote:

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P.S. I will be out all day tomorrow testifying to the Public Utilities Commission staff and will not be able to respond to any further discussion for a few days.

Testifying on this particular issue? I'd be interested in hearing what comes of it. Once again it sounds like we're trading a little imagined security for loss of freedom, and laying the expense on common carriers.

Testifying on an entirely unrelated docket. You make a very important point. I am a believer in strong privacy, and that privacy is constantly under attack. The defense of privacy requires constant vigilance. However, being able to identify which computer is sending traffic does not result in loss of privacy: 1) privacy should come from other, more secure, mechanisms such as encryption of data. 2) Current dial-up IP access provides an even greater ability to identify the user. regards, fletcher