The question... How soon before all AS owners passing *any* government traffic, will be required to install "Homeland Security (NSA) taps"? Even if the traffic is in transit to another AS.. Not all government agencies are on the NMCI. Somewhere along the line, they are going to say they need taps to maintain security *premeptive security* that is.. In the interest of Homeland Security I doubt it will be long.. Ugh, the whole thing scares me.. Brance :)_S -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel Golding Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:23 PM To: Fergie (Paul Ferguson); nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: White House may make NSA the 'traffic cop' over U.S. computer networks Considering the fairly high quality security guides that have come out of the NSA in recent years, this is probably the right choice. - Dan On 2/15/05 3:30 PM, "Fergie (Paul Ferguson)" <fergdawg@netzero.net> wrote:

...and following up on my last post, it would appear that the U.S. gummint is at least taking some action wrt U.S. gummint networks:

http://www.securityfocus.com/news/10494?ref=rss

Not leaping to any conclusions here, but it would illustrate that, at the very least, someone has concluded that the info- security posture needs to be approached a bit more seriously.

$.03,

- ferg

-- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg@netzero.net or fergdawg@sbcglobal.net

I think that puts HomeLand Security in the same category as Congress :-) Roy Engehausen Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:44:27 EST, "Brance Amussen :)_S" said:

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The question... How soon before all AS owners passing *any* government traffic, will be required to install "Homeland Security (NSA) taps"? Even if the traffic is in transit to another AS.. Not all government agencies are on the NMCI. Somewhere along the line, they are going to say they need taps to maintain security *premeptive security* that is.. In the interest of Homeland Security I doubt it will be long..

Especially in light of *this* little gem:

http://www.ombwatch.org/article/articleprint/2664/-1/315/

Congress Votes to Waive All Laws for Homeland Security

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Published 02/10/2005 04:33 PM

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Robert Shull, (202) 234-8494

WASHINGTON (February 10, 2005) ­ The House of Representatives voted 243 to 179 today to reject an amendment that would have stripped section 102 from the ³REAL ID Act of 2005² (H.R. 418). The bill, as passed, would empower the Secretary of Homeland Security to waive any federal laws, without limit, in the course of building barriers along the nation¹s borders. This controversial, precedent-setting legislation received no hearings or extended debate prior to passage. The bill now moves to the Senate for consideration.

The following is a statement by J. Robert Shull, Senior Regulatory Policy Analyst with OMB Watch.

³America is a nation founded on the rule of law, but apparently not when homeland security is involved. This is a license to waive any law, for any reason ­ or for no reason at all.

³If enacted, this bill would grant the Homeland Security Secretary unbridled authority to act however he sees fit, without consequence. His actions also would be exempt from judicial review, making him unaccountable to any authority.

³Laws that protect the environment, safeguard public health, ensure consumer and workplace safety, prevent unfair business practices, and ban discrimination ­ none of these laws, or any others, would apply to the Department of Homeland Security.

³No government agency should be above the laws that preserve America¹s democracy.²