Re: Keynote/Boardwatch Internet Backbone Index A better test!!!
I'm not a marketing droid. But only a moron would think that overall performance would NOT affect the download of a web page, which is essentially what you are attempting to say. There are certainly other ways to do it. Approximately Internet User Population raised to Internet User Population worth. Jack RIckard =================================================================== Jack Rickard Boardwatch Magazine Editor/Publisher 8500 West Bowles Ave., Ste. 210 jack.rickard@boardwatch.com Littleton, CO 80123 www.boardwatch.com Voice: (303)973-6038 =================================================================== ----------
From: Ben Black <black@zen.cypher.net> To: Craig A. Huegen <c-huegen@quadrunner.com> Cc: Jack Rickard <jack.rickard@boardwatch.com>; Peter Cole <Peter.Cole@telescan.com>; nanog@merit.edu; marketing@keynote.com Subject: Re: Keynote/Boardwatch Internet Backbone Index A better test!!! Date: Friday, June 27, 1997 2:28 PM
for an exmple of somewhat more complete and better designed benchmarks of
this type:
http://www.inversenet.com/about/backgrounder.html#2
note that they understand the numerous factors that contribute to overall
performance. only a marketing droid could think downloading 50k worth of
web pages is somehow an indicator of overall performance.
b3n
From: "Jack Rickard" <jack.rickard@boardwatch.com>
I'm not a marketing droid. But only a moron would think that overall performance would NOT affect the download of a web page, which is essentially what you are attempting to say.
Many, many things will affect the download of a web page, when it's an internal server the primary one being where that server is relative to the customer dialins, and how the internal network congestion is handled. This particular test would favor sites whose backbone is highly optimized for their customers getting to their own web server, and only their own web server. Most servers are put where their access is best balanced, and for nearly all servers, that's closer to the outside world than internal customers, because the vast majority of connections are external. This test completely missed any issues related to inter-ISP connectivity and performance. You could score at the top of the pack with a ISP which was disconnected from the rest of the internet during the test period, in fact, a key indicator that the measurement is nearly worthless as an overall gage. -george william herbert gherbert@crl.com I speak only for myself, and occationally my cats.
I wrote:
This test completely missed any issues related to inter-ISP connectivity and performance. You could score at the top of the pack with a ISP which was disconnected from the rest of the internet during the test period, in fact, a key indicator that the measurement is nearly worthless as an overall gage.
I had misread part of the description at Keynote.com and was confusing it with another test. It did test inter-ISP connectivity, but only in a very few directions. My general commentary and seconding of everyone else's criticisms stand. -george william herbert gherbert@crl.com
the "study" gives no details on the systems used, where they were, who provided net connectivity...far from scientific. the sort of thing one would expect from marketeers. and just because overall system performance affects web downloads, does that mean web downloads can be used to accurately and meaningfully measure overall system performance? i think your logic is flawed. the net is not a big BBS, in case you haven't heard. On Fri, 27 Jun 1997, Jack Rickard wrote:
I'm not a marketing droid. But only a moron would think that overall performance would NOT affect the download of a web page, which is essentially what you are attempting to say.
There are certainly other ways to do it. Approximately Internet User Population raised to Internet User Population worth.
Jack RIckard
=================================================================== Jack Rickard Boardwatch Magazine Editor/Publisher 8500 West Bowles Ave., Ste. 210 jack.rickard@boardwatch.com Littleton, CO 80123 www.boardwatch.com Voice: (303)973-6038 ===================================================================
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From: Ben Black <black@zen.cypher.net> To: Craig A. Huegen <c-huegen@quadrunner.com> Cc: Jack Rickard <jack.rickard@boardwatch.com>; Peter Cole <Peter.Cole@telescan.com>; nanog@merit.edu; marketing@keynote.com Subject: Re: Keynote/Boardwatch Internet Backbone Index A better test!!! Date: Friday, June 27, 1997 2:28 PM
for an exmple of somewhat more complete and better designed benchmarks of
this type:
http://www.inversenet.com/about/backgrounder.html#2
note that they understand the numerous factors that contribute to overall
performance. only a marketing droid could think downloading 50k worth of
web pages is somehow an indicator of overall performance.
b3n
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