Telebec's only upstream is Bell Canada (AS577) hence why you see that...;) Paul -----Original Message----- From: Michael Smith [mailto:msmith@internap.com] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 3:34 PM To: Charles Regan; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: One /22 Two ISP no BGP I see multiple paths to that block all converge at bell.ca. I don't see a route with 35911 (telebec) in the AS_PATH, unless it is start-of-string and followed by _577_ (bell.ca). They seem to be consistent...

-----Original Message----- From: Charles Regan [mailto:charles.regan@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 3:23 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: One /22 Two ISP no BGP

Just got final confirmation from ISP1 that they will not do BGP with us.

ISP1 is Telebec. http://www.iptools.com/dnstools.php?tool=ipwhois&user_data=142.217.0.0& s ubmit=Go

My subnet http://www.iptools.com/dnstools.php?tool=ipwhois&user_data=204.144.60.0 & submit=Go

What can we do now ? Any suggestions ?

Charles

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-----Original Message----- From: Paul Stewart [mailto:pstewart@nexicomgroup.net] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 3:50 PM To: Michael Smith; Charles Regan; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: One /22 Two ISP no BGP

Telebec's only upstream is Bell Canada (AS577) hence why you see that...;)

Paul

..and they are not propagating routes for anyone (no apparent bgp customers)...

-----Original Message----- From: Michael Smith [mailto:msmith@internap.com] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 3:34 PM To: Charles Regan; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: One /22 Two ISP no BGP

I see multiple paths to that block all converge at bell.ca.

I don't see a route with 35911 (telebec) in the AS_PATH, unless it is start-of-string and followed by _577_ (bell.ca).

They seem to be consistent...

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-----Original Message----- From: Charles Regan [mailto:charles.regan@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 3:23 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: One /22 Two ISP no BGP

Just got final confirmation from ISP1 that they will not do BGP with us.

ISP1 is Telebec. http://www.iptools.com/dnstools.php?tool=ipwhois&user_data=142.217.0.0

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ubmit=Go

My subnet http://www.iptools.com/dnstools.php?tool=ipwhois&user_data=204.144.60. 0 & submit=Go

What can we do now ? Any suggestions ?

Charles

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