On 3/17/2014 9:10 PM, shawn wilson wrote:

The point is that 'computer security' involves innovation as much as is done at hacker spaces (which can be geared to hardware or computer security or whatever). I think the difference you're trying to argue is the legality and not the task or process. I think calling the illegal form of the study of computer security "cracking", the legal form "hacking" and people who are "cracking" who don't know what they're doing "script kiddies" is irrelevant, useless, and causes useless debates (that I started) like this.

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