Disappointment at DENIC over Poor Rating in .net Procedure
The Register article: "The report that this week decided the ownership of the second most important directory on the Internet has been called into question with the claim that a fundamental element of it is factually incorrect." http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/03/31/net_report_denic/ DENIC statement: http://www.denic.de/en/denic/presse/press_70.html - ferg -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg@netzero.net or fergdawg@sbcglobal.net
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005, Fergie (Paul Ferguson) wrote:
The Register article:
"The report that this week decided the ownership of the second most important directory on the Internet has been called into question with the claim that a fundamental element of it is factually incorrect."
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/03/31/net_report_denic/
DENIC statement: http://www.denic.de/en/denic/presse/press_70.html
full report: http://www.icann.org/tlds/dotnet-reassignment/net-rfp-finalreport-28mar05.pd...
"The report that this week decided the ownership of the second most important directory on the Internet has been called into question with the claim that a fundamental element of it is factually incorrect."
can it BE? is this game RIGGED? what a SHOCKING SURPRISE! ("not.") based strictly on the choice of telcordia as the evaluator, the .NET bid appears to have just been ICANN's way of earning USD $800K extra this year. (minus the fee paid to telcordia, that is.) (i was mostly done being bitter about the way .ORG was handled, until someone showed me that PIR had more or less gone out of existence... i really expected this to take a little longer, just for appearance' sake.) -- Paul Vixie
* > The Register article:
"The report that this week decided the ownership of the second most important directory on the Internet has been called into question with the claim that a fundamental element of it is factually incorrect."
Apparently, the main criticism is that DENIC developed the core of its operations (the main database) on its own, without hiring consultants. I find this criticism a bit strange as well, but it makes some sense if you are extremely risk adverse. The main question is why DENIC wasn't aware of this criterion before it made its offer (or the requirement to be a customer of some disaster recovery company). Anyway, DENIC's offer didn't match that of Sentan or Verisign in many aspects, so it's a non-issue in the end.
Anyway, DENIC's offer didn't match that of Sentan ...
funny, the first item of work email i read today was this: the Neulevel SRS is currently down, .biz registrations are therefore not possible. We will inform you as soon as the registry is online again. your metric for "match" may vary. eric
* Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine:
Anyway, DENIC's offer didn't match that of Sentan ...
funny, the first item of work email i read today was this:
the Neulevel SRS is currently down, .biz registrations are therefore not possible.
We will inform you as soon as the registry is online again.
your metric for "match" may vary.
From time to time, this happens at DENIC, too, including unscheduled service outages.
OTOH, the offered level of service for the .NET contract does not necessarily match that of the existing registries.
Eric, Assuming that "the first item of work email" refers to mail today (March 31), or even in the past couple of days, I can say that we (NeuLevel) have had no outages, neither planned nor unplanned, of our SRS in that time. If you can give us some more information (off-line), we can look into whatever may have caused you to see such an email. I'm about to hit the road, so a response from me will be delayed. For a more immediate answer, contact our registry services help desk (support (at) neulevel.biz). Ed At 15:48 -0500 3/31/05, Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine wrote:
funny, the first item of work email i read today was this:
the Neulevel SRS is currently down, .biz registrations are therefore not possible.
We will inform you as soon as the registry is online again.
your metric for "match" may vary.
eric
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On 31.03.2005 22:36 Florian Weimer wrote
Anyway, DENIC's offer didn't match that of Sentan or Verisign in many aspects, so it's a non-issue in the end.
But only if you judge according to Telcordia's metric. As always: Never trust a statistic you have not faked yourself ... Arnold -- Arnold Nipper, AN45
* Arnold Nipper:
On 31.03.2005 22:36 Florian Weimer wrote
Anyway, DENIC's offer didn't match that of Sentan or Verisign in many aspects, so it's a non-issue in the end.
But only if you judge according to Telcordia's metric.
Yes, the selection of criteria could be biased. Or Telcordia compared apples and oranges when it compared Verisign's 100 ms to DENIC's 200 ms (or what the actual numbers where).
As always: Never trust a statistic you have not faked yourself ...
I doubt that DENIC will ever publish the technical part of its bid, so this isn't convincing.
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005, Florian Weimer wrote: > Yes, the selection of criteria could be biased. Or Telcordia compared > apples and oranges when it compared Verisign's 100 ms to DENIC's > 200 ms (or what the actual numbers where). Yeah, I was a little curious about the composition of the latency number as well... A heavily-splayed anycast deployment should have influenced that number favorably, I'd have thought, but apparently not. It's my assumption that they ran pings (of some unknown duration) from some unknown number of locations, to each of the currently-operated server addresses, and combined (averaged?) the results somehow. But I'd certainly be curious as to their actual methodology. -Bill
"The report that this week decided the ownership of the second most important directory on the Internet has been called into question with the claim that a fundamental element of it is factually incorrect."
Apparently, the main criticism is that DENIC developed the core of its operations (the main database) on its own, without hiring consultants.
Well there's your problem. German law makes it much harder to lay off your staff and rehire them as consultants than it is here in the U.S. R's, John
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