We are trying to design a physically diverse network in China and have been challenged. All of the major carriers say that they cannot provide us KMZs or similar detailed route information. Has anyone been able to crack this code? G. Gabriel Cole *RTE Group, Inc.* *Strategic Consulting for Mission Critical Infrastructure* 56 Woodridge Rd Wellesley, MA 02482 US +1-617-303-8707 fax +1-781-209-5577 www.rtegroup.com ( http://www.rtegroup.com ) gabe@rtegroup.com skype: ggabrielcole Twitter: @DataCenterGuru Linked In: http://www.linkedin.com/in/gabecole Blog: http://datacenterguru.blogspot.com/ The information contained herein is confidential and proprietary to RTE Group, Inc. It is intended for presentation to and permitted use solely by those person(s) to whom it has been transmitted by RTE Group, Inc. and it is transmitted to such person(s) solely for, conditional upon, and only to the extent necessary for use by such person(s) as part of their business relationship with RTE Group, Inc. or to further their respective evaluation(s) of a potential business relationship with RTE Group, Inc., and no other use, release, or reproduction of this information is permitted. Sent via Superhuman ( https://sprh.mn/?vip=gabe@rtegroup.com )
I’ve had good luck with PCCW operating as my China liaison since we terminate a lot of circuits in Hong Kong and Singapore. It’s not cheap I’ll tell ya but they can get the info and deliver. J~
On Jan 16, 2020, at 10:21, Gabe Cole <gabe@rtegroup.com> wrote:
We are trying to design a physically diverse network in China and have been challenged. All of the major carriers say that they cannot provide us KMZs or similar detailed route information. Has anyone been able to crack this code?
G. Gabriel Cole RTE Group, Inc. Strategic Consulting for Mission Critical Infrastructure 56 Woodridge Rd Wellesley, MA 02482 US +1-617-303-8707 fax +1-781-209-5577 www.rtegroup.com gabe@rtegroup.com skype: ggabrielcole Twitter: @DataCenterGuru Linked In: http://www.linkedin.com/in/gabecole Blog: http://datacenterguru.blogspot.com/
The information contained herein is confidential and proprietary to RTE Group, Inc. It is intended for presentation to and permitted use solely by those person(s) to whom it has been transmitted by RTE Group, Inc. and it is transmitted to such person(s) solely for, conditional upon, and only to the extent necessary for use by such person(s) as part of their business relationship with RTE Group, Inc. or to further their respective evaluation(s) of a potential business relationship with RTE Group, Inc., and no other use, release, or reproduction of this information is permitted.
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I think the issue is mainland China, not Hong Kong or Singapore. ________________________________ From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of JASON BOTHE via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 5:30 PM To: Gabe Cole <gabe@rtegroup.com> Cc: nanog@nanog.org <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: China Network Diversity I’ve had good luck with PCCW operating as my China liaison since we terminate a lot of circuits in Hong Kong and Singapore. It’s not cheap I’ll tell ya but they can get the info and deliver. J~ On Jan 16, 2020, at 10:21, Gabe Cole <gabe@rtegroup.com> wrote: We are trying to design a physically diverse network in China and have been challenged. All of the major carriers say that they cannot provide us KMZs or similar detailed route information. Has anyone been able to crack this code? G. Gabriel Cole RTE Group, Inc. Strategic Consulting for Mission Critical Infrastructure 56 Woodridge Rd Wellesley, MA 02482 US +1-617-303-8707 fax +1-781-209-5577 www.rtegroup.com<http://www.rtegroup.com> gabe@rtegroup.com<mailto:gabe@rtegroup.com> skype: ggabrielcole Twitter: @DataCenterGuru Linked In: http://www.linkedin.com/in/gabecole Blog: http://datacenterguru.blogspot.com/ The information contained herein is confidential and proprietary to RTE Group, Inc. It is intended for presentation to and permitted use solely by those person(s) to whom it has been transmitted by RTE Group, Inc. and it is transmitted to such person(s) solely for, conditional upon, and only to the extent necessary for use by such person(s) as part of their business relationship with RTE Group, Inc. or to further their respective evaluation(s) of a potential business relationship with RTE Group, Inc., and no other use, release, or reproduction of this information is permitted. Sent via Superhuman<https://sprh.mn/?vip=gabe@rtegroup.com>
We weren't even able to deploy our own DWDM. China (Beijing), like India (Mumbai), forced the use of their own transport equipment. //please pardon any brevities - sent from mobile// ________________________________ From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+stephen.myspam=gmail.com@nanog.org> on behalf of Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 8:55 AM To: Gabe Cole; JASON BOTHE Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: China Network Diversity I think the issue is mainland China, not Hong Kong or Singapore. ________________________________ From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of JASON BOTHE via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 5:30 PM To: Gabe Cole <gabe@rtegroup.com> Cc: nanog@nanog.org <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: China Network Diversity I’ve had good luck with PCCW operating as my China liaison since we terminate a lot of circuits in Hong Kong and Singapore. It’s not cheap I’ll tell ya but they can get the info and deliver. J~ On Jan 16, 2020, at 10:21, Gabe Cole <gabe@rtegroup.com> wrote: We are trying to design a physically diverse network in China and have been challenged. All of the major carriers say that they cannot provide us KMZs or similar detailed route information. Has anyone been able to crack this code? G. Gabriel Cole RTE Group, Inc. Strategic Consulting for Mission Critical Infrastructure 56 Woodridge Rd Wellesley, MA 02482 US +1-617-303-8707 fax +1-781-209-5577 www.rtegroup.com<http://www.rtegroup.com> gabe@rtegroup.com<mailto:gabe@rtegroup.com> skype: ggabrielcole Twitter: @DataCenterGuru Linked In: http://www.linkedin.com/in/gabecole Blog: http://datacenterguru.blogspot.com/ The information contained herein is confidential and proprietary to RTE Group, Inc. It is intended for presentation to and permitted use solely by those person(s) to whom it has been transmitted by RTE Group, Inc. and it is transmitted to such person(s) solely for, conditional upon, and only to the extent necessary for use by such person(s) as part of their business relationship with RTE Group, Inc. or to further their respective evaluation(s) of a potential business relationship with RTE Group, Inc., and no other use, release, or reproduction of this information is permitted. Sent via Superhuman<https://sprh.mn/?vip=gabe@rtegroup.com>
I have experienced the same thing. I think it is motivated by national security paranoia. Regards, Roderick. ________________________________ From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Gabe Cole <gabe@rtegroup.com> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 3:10 AM To: nanog@nanog.org <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: China Network Diversity We are trying to design a physically diverse network in China and have been challenged. All of the major carriers say that they cannot provide us KMZs or similar detailed route information. Has anyone been able to crack this code? G. Gabriel Cole RTE Group, Inc. Strategic Consulting for Mission Critical Infrastructure 56 Woodridge Rd Wellesley, MA 02482 US +1-617-303-8707 fax +1-781-209-5577 www.rtegroup.com<http://www.rtegroup.com> gabe@rtegroup.com<mailto:gabe@rtegroup.com> skype: ggabrielcole Twitter: @DataCenterGuru Linked In: http://www.linkedin.com/in/gabecole Blog: http://datacenterguru.blogspot.com/ The information contained herein is confidential and proprietary to RTE Group, Inc. It is intended for presentation to and permitted use solely by those person(s) to whom it has been transmitted by RTE Group, Inc. and it is transmitted to such person(s) solely for, conditional upon, and only to the extent necessary for use by such person(s) as part of their business relationship with RTE Group, Inc. or to further their respective evaluation(s) of a potential business relationship with RTE Group, Inc., and no other use, release, or reproduction of this information is permitted. Sent via Superhuman<https://sprh.mn/?vip=gabe@rtegroup.com>
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