not only are they in the bgp tables, one can even traceroute to them bash# traceroute 208.0.1.5 traceroute to 208.0.1.5 (208.0.1.5), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 slc-t1.eli.ut (206.29.221.1) 3 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 cir-OC48.a.slc-t1.vii.net (206.29.193.25) 5 ms 3 ms 3 ms 3 border2-hssi2-0.Denver.mci.net (204.70.29.9) 14 ms 14 ms 13 ms 4 core-fddi-1.Denver.mci.net (204.70.3.113) 16 ms 14 ms 14 ms 5 core-hssi-3.SanFrancisco.mci.net (204.70.1.38) 81 ms 183 ms 38 ms 6 border3-fddi-0.SanFrancisco.mci.net (204.70.2.163) 291 ms 257 ms 337 ms 7 smds.west.cix.net (149.20.64.1) 336 ms 76 ms 41 ms 8 149.20.21.2 (149.20.21.2) 61 ms 116 ms 54 ms 9 santa-barbara.la-frame.imn.net (204.74.127.253) 106 ms 54 ms 54 ms 10 208.0.1.1 (208.0.1.1) 58 ms 61 ms 58 ms 11 208.0.1.2 (208.0.1.2) 58 ms 58 ms 60 ms 12 208.0.1.1 (208.0.1.1) 61 ms 61 ms 61 ms and a traceroute to bash# traceroute 208.0.1.1 traceroute to 208.0.1.1 (208.0.1.1), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 slc-t1.eli.ut (206.29.221.1) 3 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 cir-OC48.a.slc-t1.vii.net (206.29.193.25) 5 ms 3 ms 3 ms 3 border2-hssi2-0.Denver.mci.net (204.70.29.9) 60 ms 112 ms 108 ms 4 core-fddi-1.Denver.mci.net (204.70.3.113) 134 ms 31 ms 16 ms 5 core-hssi-3.SanFrancisco.mci.net (204.70.1.38) 44 ms 44 ms 37 ms 6 border3-fddi-0.SanFrancisco.mci.net (204.70.2.163) 42 ms 38 ms 38 ms 7 smds.west.cix.net (149.20.64.1) 48 ms 41 ms 43 ms 8 149.20.21.2 (149.20.21.2) 61 ms 54 ms 54 ms 9 santa-barbara.la-frame.imn.net (204.74.127.253) 54 ms 54 ms 54 ms 10 204.74.97.254 (204.74.97.254) 67 ms 58 ms 58 ms and bash# ping 208.0.1.1 208.0.1.1 is alive what is going on.... bash# telnet 208.0.1.1 Trying 208.0.1.1 ... Connected to 208.0.1.1. Escape character is '^]'. ComOS - Livingston PortMaster login: holly cow, bash# ping 208.0.1.2 208.0.1.2 is alive bash# telnet 208.0.1.2 Trying 208.0.1.2 ... Connected to 208.0.1.2. Escape character is '^]'. User Access Verification Password: which is a cisco... so, someone has gotten around getting ips from the nic and gave them to themselves Christian Nielsen Vyzynz International Inc. cnielsen@vii.com,CN46,KB7HAP Phone 801-568-0999 Fax 801-568-0953 PS :) Private Email christian@nielsen.net ********************************************************************* * Unsolicited Commercial E-Mail will cost $500/message under USC 47 * * which can be found online at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/* *********************************************************************