Re: effects of NYC power outage
I agree... I don't know why this is being discussed. I just thank -whoever- for 25bway still standing. -Simon On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:51:11 -0400 (EDT), Tuc wrote:
From what I recall, it failed due to a mechanical problem first... then after they fixed it and had it running for sometime, it ran out of fuel.
Hi,
Ok, come on... That was 310 or so days ago. Exactly what happened shouldn't be a huge concern anymore. They addressed it, fixed it, and are making sure it doesn't happen again, thats the part we need to concentrate on.
Phil, you weren't even a customer then, were you? And for those that didn't know/forgot.... I slept in the conference room the first 4 days after it all happened... And I think given the severity and magnitude of the event, they did a hell of a job. Only so much you can expect.
Tuc/TTSG Internet Services, Inc.
Ok, come on... That was 310 or so days ago. Exactly what happened shouldn't be a huge concern anymore. They addressed it, fixed it, and are making sure it doesn't happen again, thats the part we need to concentrate on.
The Morris worm happened over a decade ago. Computers are still being attacked using the same vulnerabilities used by the Morris worm, and amazingly some of the attacks are still working. The AT&T New York City/FAA power failure happened over a decade ago (http://www.att.com/news/0991/910930.cha.html). Power problems continue to be a significant cause of network disruptions. AT&T is a bit unusual. It almost always releases more information about its failures than any other telecommunications company. AS7007 happened over 5 years ago. Some networks still don't practicee safe filtering. Think volunteer fire department. The house you keep from burning down may be your own. If you don't want to participate, don't expect much help from your neighbors. Its amazing how often something happens to one organization, and continues to happen to other organizations. As an industry we want to make sure it not only doesn't happen to the same provider again, but the experience isn't repeated by other providers. That's why the electrical industry shares their experiences through DAWG (Disturbance Analysis Working Group) and the telephone industry shares their experiences through NRIC (Network reliability and interoperability council). I encourage folks to participate in the ISAC, NRIC and NSTAC programs. You may have the same vulnerability as several other providers, and don't know it. The solution you share may save yourself from a future vulnerability. The government cyber-protection groups have realized that they don't have good contacts with carrier hotel landlords, and it is an unknown exposure. Heck, there isn't even a good list of all the "important" carrier hotels. If you are a carrier hotel landlord, and aren't in contact with the government working groups examining infrastructure vulnerabilities, they want your input.
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Simon