1. Is this an organization for Domain Names for registering them and maintaining them , and developing global policy ??
CORE is just a private company attempting to market five domain names. .WEB and .ART do not belong to CORE because other companies have developed registries for these Top Level Domains. However CORE is trying in the process to independantly establish Global regulations over the namespace and this is highly unacceptable to most reasonable observers. They've as much right to register .FIRM, .STORE and the others as Internic has to do the same for .COM, .ORG and .NET and Alternic to act as a registry for .XXX, .ZOO, .WEB and so on. None of them have the right to govern the Internet.
2. If this Person has breached federal telecommunication regulations ? if so. then must pay for the crimes as set down in the countries law.!!!!
Mr. Kashpureff is innocent until proven otherwise. And by all appearances the charges are all politically motivated and not very well grounded in legalities. No-one actually owns the domain names. So what the fellow did is not illegal in the strict sense of the word. And it really didn't inconvenience anyone except for those who wish to claim ownership over a universal resource.
3. Defense Fund , if people want to help this person , this should not be connected in anyway to this organization or this may be seen around the world as an incorrect organization policy !!!!!!!
I think it would be wonderful if CORE were to donate some of it's money to the Eugene Kashpureff's Defense Fund! I also think it would be great if they officially endorsed the Eugene Kashpureff's Defense Fund. Unfortunately CORE is itself trying to steal Internic's monopoly and install one of it's own. And CORE will in all probablility be the next target of protest actions.
4. I am confused over the role of the CORE know because of this discussion on a issue that doesn't concern the domain registration or GLTD policy development.
This whole debate is central to the debate. Internic holds a monopoly over Domain Names. No-one else can participate at any level. Now CORE wants to take over as the Monopoly. Leaving everyone else out in the cold. And by everyone else I mean individuals, small companies, non- profit organizatrions and most nations in the so-called "third" world. The price tag for a new domain name registry is a half million US dollars (US$500,000). Not only that CORE is a private organization run without any public oversight under Swiss law. It is, furthermore, *not* supported or sanctioned by any member State of the United Nations nor by the UN itself. CORE is a rogue DNS elephant like Internic was in the past. We may have no alternative but to stop it in any way we can. And Eugene points the way very clearly. Will CORE stop and reverse it's course? That remains to be seen. If not expect more of the same protest actions like Kashpureff's. We will have no other choice. TeleVirtually Yours, Bob Allisat Director, World TeleVirtual Network http://www.wtv.net PO Box 191 St E Toronto Canada M6H 4E2 tor@wtv.net (416) 534-1999 http://www.wtv.net/portfolio.html
There is no place for this rabble in Nanog or Iwar!!!! Capeche? Do I have to come to your house at 2 am and kill your powerlines?
Marc Hurst wrote:
There is no place for this rabble in Nanog or Iwar!!!!
Capeche? Do I have to come to your house at 2 am and kill your powerlines?
I didn't start this. In fact I don't even know what these damned mailing lists are about. Suggest advising your collegues, specifically to no longer Cc: all these lists. Until then I am obliged to reply to the various debates. It's only fair after all. TeleVirtually Yours, Bob Allisat Director, World TeleVirtual Network http://www.wtv.net PO Box 191 St E Toronto Canada M6H 4E2 tor@wtv.net (416) 534-1999 http://www.wtv.net/portfolio.html
There is no place for this rabble in Nanog or Iwar!!!!
Capeche? Do I have to come to your house at 2 am and kill your powerlines?
You freedom fighter! ;-) ;-) --Dean ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Plain Aviation, Inc dean@av8.com LAN/WAN/UNIX/NT/TCPIP http://www.av8.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Marc, Marc Hurst wrote:
There is no place for this rabble in Nanog or Iwar!!!!
Capeche? Do I have to come to your house at 2 am and kill your powerlines?
Is this a threat MR. Hurst. If so, or and implied threat, I believe that the Justice department would be intrested in this E-Mail. After sending this reply to you I shall do my civic duty and forward this onto them and the FBI for further review, along with my reply here. Regards, -- Jeffrey A. Williams DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java Development Eng. Information Eng. Group. IEG. INC. (Soon to be INEG. INC) Stay tunned! Phone :913-294-2375 (v-office) E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com Wisdom: "One who knows others is wise, one who knows himself is enlightened." Lao Tzu
On Thu, 27 Nov 1997, Jeff Williams wrote:
Marc Hurst wrote:
There is no place for this rabble in Nanog or Iwar!!!!
Capeche? Do I have to come to your house at 2 am and kill your powerlines?
Is this a threat MR. Hurst. If so, or and implied threat, I believe that the Justice department would be intrested in this E-Mail. After sending this reply to you I shall do my civic duty and forward this onto them and the FBI for further review, along with my reply here.
You're kidding, right? *sigh* If this is sarcasm, then I'm seriously humor impaired. If you can't recognise that *HE* was being sarcastic, I'd suggest you take some lessons in humor as well. CC's trimmed for sanity. -- ____ ______ _____ _/ __ \ ___// \ Edward S. Marshall <emarshal@logic.net> \ ___/___ \| | | \ http://www.logic.net/~emarshal/ \____\_____>__|_|__/ Information Systems Manager, Logical Solutions [ Are you a spammer looking for a great opportunity to be blacklisted? Then ] [ have your automatic bots email spam@logic.net and secure a spot on my list! ]
Edward, Edward S. Marshall wrote:
On Thu, 27 Nov 1997, Jeff Williams wrote:
Marc Hurst wrote:
There is no place for this rabble in Nanog or Iwar!!!!
Capeche? Do I have to come to your house at 2 am and kill your powerlines?
Is this a threat MR. Hurst. If so, or and implied threat, I believe that the Justice department would be intrested in this E-Mail. After sending this reply to you I shall do my civic duty and forward this onto them and the FBI for further review, along with my reply here.
You're kidding, right? *sigh* If this is sarcasm, then I'm seriously humor impaired. If you can't recognise that *HE* was being sarcastic, I'd suggest you take some lessons in humor as well.
Yes I am quite serious. Sarcasm or not, a threat is a threat, and has no place in reasonable discussions. I take all threats seriously. Maybe you should as well.
CC's trimmed for sanity.
Same- Same
-- ____ ______ _____ _/ __ \ ___// \ Edward S. Marshall <emarshal@logic.net> \ ___/___ \| | | \ http://www.logic.net/~emarshal/ \____\_____>__|_|__/ Information Systems Manager, Logical Solutions
[ Are you a spammer looking for a great opportunity to be blacklisted? Then ] [ have your automatic bots email spam@logic.net and secure a spot on my list! ]
Regards, -- Jeffrey A. Williams DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java Development Eng. Information Eng. Group. IEG. INC. (Soon to be INEG. INC) Stay tunned! Phone :913-294-2375 (v-office) E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com Wisdom: "One who knows others is wise, one who knows himself is enlightened." Lao Tzu
CC's trimmed for sanity.
Same- Same
Hi everyone - just a reminder about the NANOG AUP. As I said in private e-mail to several folks last week, the AUP expressly discourages cross-posts to NANOG and other lists: 3.Postings to multiple mailing lists are discouraged. (See http://www.nanog.org/aup.html). As folks noted in the messages quoted above, several recent postings did trim their CC: lists, but the messages were still cross-posted to NANOG and other lists. Please note that many non-operational issues discussed in these messages, particularly DNS issues, are more appropriately discussed in newdom@ar.com or one of the other DNS-specific mailing lists. You'll find a selection of these other lists on Merit's "Resources for ISPs" Web page (http://www.merit.edu/ipma/docs/isp.html). Thanks in advance for your cooperation. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Susan R. Harris, Ph.D. Merit Network, Inc. Phone: 313.936.2100 srh@merit.edu Senior Science Writer Fax: 313.647.3185 ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Marc Hurst wrote:
There is no place for this rabble in Nanog or Iwar!!!!
Capeche? Do I have to come to your house at 2 am and kill your powerlines?
Jeff Willaims replied:
Is this a threat MR. Hurst. If so, or and implied threat, I believe that the Justice department would be intrested in this E-Mail. After sending this reply to you I shall do my civic duty and forward this onto them and the FBI for further review, along with my reply here.
Better make that the RCMP Jeffer. And *Toronto* Hydro. See we here is in Canada. Ontario. Toronto. And if Mister Hurst shimmies up a pole with some wire clippers these folks (not the FBI) should know about it. And while you're at it call 9-1-1... because poor old Marc will probably come off his cable cutting caper crisped com cringles. See we just upgraded the building to 200 amp service. As in Bzzzzz_arrrrgh_ZAaaaaPP! BTW: when the authorities leap out of the bushes tonight to arrest the electrocuted Marc Hurst it will be highly important what day it is... US Thanksgiving. As in baked. As in Turkeys. See Eugene had his Halloween. It's only appropriate that Marc have his (gobble-gobble) T-giving. Bring on the Pilgrums, Pilgrum! Pass the cranberry sauce my little cranberry! Except for it will be day after. And that means leftovers! Mmmm! Yum! A Vegetarians dream! The picked over carcass of a very dead bird.... yuk! (Bob in humour mode. Okay. I'll lighten up. Just stop already, okay? Lets's all just drop it for the time being shall we?) TeleVirtually Yours, Bob Allisat Director, World TeleVirtual Network http://www.wtv.net PO Box 191 St E Toronto Canada M6H 4E2 tor@wtv.net (416) 534-1999 http://www.wtv.net/portfolio.html
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