Re: DoS, ICMP, proxies, SYNDefender
From: Tim Bass <bass@linux.silkroad.com> Subject: Re: DoS, ICMP, proxies, SYNDefender To: michael@memra.com (Michael Dillon) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 17:18:25 -0400 (EDT) Cc: nanog@merit.edu, iepg@iepg.org
This is not the right forum to discuss TCP internals nor is it the right forum to discuss building hardened kernels
That may or may not be true, I'll pass on that one.
What is the name of the 'right list' for this discussion, BTW? linux-net is quiet and the linux code fragement for linux does not work on high speed networks..... [...]
The real TCP people tend to hang out on the end-to-end mail list. They could, and probably would, provide a high-quality critique of a well- written summary of what you propose. On the other hand, the e-2-e mail list probably doesn't have much patience for the sort of chatter that has appeared on this topic on nanog... I suggest you write an internet draft and send it to end-to-end for comments. -tjs
Hi Tim Salo! Nice to hear from you, BTW.
I suggest you write an internet draft and send it to end-to-end for comments.
A couple of things to respond, most off topic, so forgive me, please, but to explain ... First, I would like to read the end2end archives. Can someone point me to the archive site? Second, have a pet-peeve about writing in formats that are not very 'graphical or beautiful', it demotivates me to write ASCII drafts and therefore, to my own demise, I have never submitted an ID or other document to IETF. This is not a problem with the IETF, it is just my personal dislike for reading, writing and printing ASCII text. I do all my writing in TeX/LaTeX because it is fun to do the graphics and read the text.... OK, so I'm strange. Third, If I had a good reliable LaTeX to RFC filter to convert LaTeX documents to ID/RFC format, at least I could have fun writing and then turn it into a draft, but I have not found a reliable filter and am not overly motivated to write one, again my hangup. But, I would love to find a LaTeX ---> RFC filter. Forth, I do believe, however it is worthwhile to bring the ICMP UNREACHABLE issue up in the IETF, not necessarily because of SYN_RECV, but because there are many present and future IP issues that better ICMP would benefit, IMO. Hence, I will volunteer to write a paper in LaTeX--->postscript on the subject; if interested parties with provide critical comments so refine the document/draft and then someone will turn the document into an IETF acceptable format from either LaTeX or the postscript file. Two to Four, are just personal pet-peeves that do not require a response unless someone is interested or has a filter. However, a pointer to the archives of end2end would be be appreciated. Perhaps the ICMP UNREACHABLE issue as well as the SYN handshake issue has been archived there as well. Sorry, for the digression on my opinion of ID & RFC required formats... it does have a useful purpose to allow a wide range of audiences to read them.... however, if it would be possible to submit LaTex docs to IETF and have them do the LaTeX --> ASCII filter, I would certainly write more (which is currently zero) for IETF. (and now I hope everyone who might wonder understands why... thanks) Best Regards, Tim
On Fri, 4 Oct 1996, Tim Bass wrote:
Third, If I had a good reliable LaTeX to RFC filter to convert LaTeX documents to ID/RFC format,
RFC's and ID's are done with good old reliable nroff. It's just as much fun as TeX and I'm sure there are TeX-2-nroff converters available. Read RFC1543 and ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1id-guidelines.txt for more details. Michael Dillon - ISP & Internet Consulting Memra Software Inc. - Fax: +1-604-546-3049 http://www.memra.com - E-mail: michael@memra.com
In message <Pine.BSI.3.93.961004181808.6174I-100000@sidhe.memra.com>, Michael D illon writes:
On Fri, 4 Oct 1996, Tim Bass wrote:
Third, If I had a good reliable LaTeX to RFC filter to convert LaTeX documents to ID/RFC format,
RFC's and ID's are done with good old reliable nroff. It's just as much fun as TeX and I'm sure there are TeX-2-nroff converters available.
Read RFC1543 and ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1id-guidelines.txt for more details.
Michael Dillon - ISP & Internet Consulting Memra Software Inc. - Fax: +1-604-546-3049 http://www.memra.com - E-mail: michael@memra.com
Get rfc.sty, txt.sty, and i-d.sty and related files off the CTAN archives. Only works for latex209. Add latex2html and you can do text, postscript, and html from latex source. Curtis
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