Brandon Galbraith <brandon.galbraith@gmail.com> wrote:

Get dry loops from the ILEC and place repeaters at strategic points?

I guess I need a little more education on how the process of ordering dry pairs from an ILEC works. I thought it works like this: 1. You have to be colocated in the CO to begin with. 2. You give the ILEC the address of an end site and they run a dry pair from your cage within their CO to that address. 3. You don't get access to any intermediate points. As far as placing the repeaters at "strategic points", yeah, that's exactly what I meant, but my point was that these "strategic points" are owned by the ILEC, and I was/am wondering how to go about making it possible for a third party to stick repeater equipment in there. I envision the following picture: * There is a CO in a town, and there is a Covad DSLAM in that CO, serving those folks who are located in the town itself. * There is a winding mountain road going out of town into the countryside, and there are phone wires running alongside that road, several miles long. * There gotta be a bunch of cyan-colored cross-connect boxes on the side of the road, manholes and other places where the ILEC has mid-span access to those loooong loops. They also very likely have loading coils on loops like that, and although I confess that I've never seen one of those coils with my own eyes, I've heard that they are rather bulky in terms of physical dimensions, probably bigger than a repeater PCB. The problem is that these mid-span access points are property of the ILEC along with the rest of the loop plant, and although there probably exists an ILEC-internal procedure for installing mid-span repeaters for T1s and maybe ISDN BRI, that is most certainly done by the ILEC itself, not by any third parties. Making it possible for a third party to access those intermediate points to install repeater equipment which the ILEC won't understand (handling Covad's non-standard flavor of SDSL/2B1Q) is the problem I'm trying to solve. MS