--- mike@mtcc.com wrote: From: Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com> To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: mail admins? Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 17:34:36 -0700 On 4/21/20 5:19 PM, Scott Weeks wrote:
I think you just need to let scripts run in your browser for nanog.org. sad. http://nanog.org used to be the brilliant example of a fully featured web site sans javascript, flash, ...
I'm not one to plus-one anything, but this should be plus-infinity. I whined about it a year or so ago. Crickets. I gave up on doing anything on the web site because I can't get anything to work unless I make my computer less secure. Sad trend. More flash and trash marketing crap and less network engineering acumen. Like configuring routers from a web browser, rather than a CLI...
this ship left port in the 90's. you might as well be an old man yelling at clouds. oh wait, randy does kind of resemble grandpa simpson :) ---------------------------------------------- So I should just get used to configuring routers with HTTP and Notepad and forget about that nasty, old, 20th century vi crap? :) scott ps. One guy I know claims vi is the spawn of satan.
On 4/21/20 7:46 PM, Scott Weeks wrote:
--- mike@mtcc.com wrote:
From: Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com> To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: mail admins? Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 17:34:36 -0700
On 4/21/20 5:19 PM, Scott Weeks wrote:
I think you just need to let scripts run in your browser for nanog.org. sad. http://nanog.org used to be the brilliant example of a fully featured web site sans javascript, flash, ...
I'm not one to plus-one anything, but this should be plus-infinity. I whined about it a year or so ago. Crickets. I gave up on doing anything on the web site because I can't get anything to work unless I make my computer less secure. Sad trend. More flash and trash marketing crap and less network engineering acumen. Like configuring routers from a web browser, rather than a CLI...
this ship left port in the 90's. you might as well be an old man yelling at clouds. oh wait, randy does kind of resemble grandpa simpson :) ----------------------------------------------
So I should just get used to configuring routers with HTTP and Notepad and forget about that nasty, old, 20th century vi crap? :)
scott
ps. One guy I know claims vi is the spawn of satan.
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On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 8:37 PM Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com> wrote:
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I did a bit of that last week when Google up and decided that gmail's "send as" feature would no longer communicate with servers offering starttls with a self-signed certificate. -Bill -- William Herrin bill@herrin.us https://bill.herrin.us/
On 4/21/20 7:46 PM, Scott Weeks wrote:
--- mike@mtcc.com wrote:
From: Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com> To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: mail admins? Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 17:34:36 -0700
On 4/21/20 5:19 PM, Scott Weeks wrote:
I think you just need to let scripts run in your browser for nanog.org. sad. http://nanog.org used to be the brilliant example of a fully featured web site sans javascript, flash, ...
I'm not one to plus-one anything, but this should be plus-infinity. I whined about it a year or so ago. Crickets. I gave up on doing anything on the web site because I can't get anything to work unless I make my computer less secure. Sad trend. More flash and trash marketing crap and less network engineering acumen. Like configuring routers from a web browser, rather than a CLI...
this ship left port in the 90's. you might as well be an old man yelling at clouds. oh wait, randy does kind of resemble grandpa simpson :) ----------------------------------------------
So I should just get used to configuring routers with HTTP and Notepad and forget about that nasty, old, 20th century vi crap? :)
No, but complaining about javascript on websites is about as relevant today as complaining that the horsepoop pushers union is lacking relevance. javascript is a hell of a lot safer than downloading native apps on your phone, for example. and don't get me started on OAUTH being used for native apps... Mike
On 4/23/20 6:07 PM, Matt Palmer wrote:
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 09:10:37AM -0700, Michael Thomas wrote:
javascript is a hell of a lot safer than downloading native apps on your phone, for example. Because those are, of course, the *only* two possible options for accessing information.
I'm sorry that you all need to prove as muchly as possible that you're capable of living in the Stone Age, but us devs give you a collective ::yawn:: you are completely irrelevant. Mike
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Matt Palmer
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Michael Thomas
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Scott Weeks
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William Herrin