Hello, I am currently running a network of cisco 2621s with the OC-192 NM for my upstream connections. The internal network links are a mixture of K56Flex modems and GRE tunnels. I am looking to upgrade to OC-768 real soon now and am wondering what the prospects are for OC-768 availability on the 2621 platform. I've found the 2621 to be rock-solid, except when I ping it, so I'd like to keep my network on that platform if possible. In addition, if anyone knows the availability of OC-768 circuits between the following cities I'd appreciate any fiber maps and an approximate price range: Ottawa, ON, CA Midland, ON, CA Goderich, ON, CA Toronto, ON, CA Compton, CA, US Sealand At each site I plan to announce a /24 from a /20 I was allocated so if everyone could please update their prefix filters now that would be great. Thank you. -- Dalph Roncaster Communicate in total privacy. Get your free encrypted email at https://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Looking for a good deal on a domain name? http://www.hush.com/partners/offers.cgi?id=domainpeople
Seriously, I don't see OC768 coming online en masse until they get the kinks worked out of optical switching. The transit times are so short thru the innards, in the order of picoseconds, that electronics is way too slow to perform such mundane tasks like determining where a packet is supposed to go. Thus, all this will require optical computing to be available cheaply and a lot more widespread than it is now. Cross your fingers and hope for a quantum breakthrough... OC192 is already pushing the limits of present technology. And add to that, the sorry state of the major players in telecom, and I don't think you'll see them willing to pony up an investment in something like that until it's well established. A typical egg/chicken situation...... At 16:10 7/29/02 -0700, you wrote:
Hello,
I am currently running a network of cisco 2621s with the OC-192 NM for my upstream connections. The internal network links are a mixture of K56Flex modems and GRE tunnels.
I am looking to upgrade to OC-768 real soon now and am wondering what the prospects are for OC-768 availability on the 2621 platform. I've found the 2621 to be rock-solid, except when I ping it, so I'd like to keep my network on that platform if possible.
In addition, if anyone knows the availability of OC-768 circuits between the following cities I'd appreciate any fiber maps and an approximate price range: Ottawa, ON, CA Midland, ON, CA Goderich, ON, CA Toronto, ON, CA Compton, CA, US Sealand
At each site I plan to announce a /24 from a /20 I was allocated so if everyone could please update their prefix filters now that would be great.
Thank you.
-- Dalph Roncaster
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Wasn't one of the major switch companies working on a system of bubbles. <seriously> I'm not sure if it was foundry or Juniper or who but someone was trying to route packets or rather switch packets in a device at high speed by using bubbles to reflect and switch the light instead of converting to electrons. On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, blitz wrote:
Seriously, I don't see OC768 coming online en masse until they get the kinks worked out of optical switching. The transit times are so short thru the innards, in the order of picoseconds, that electronics is way too slow to perform such mundane tasks like determining where a packet is supposed to go. Thus, all this will require optical computing to be available cheaply and a lot more widespread than it is now. Cross your fingers and hope for a quantum breakthrough... OC192 is already pushing the limits of present technology. And add to that, the sorry state of the major players in telecom, and I don't think you'll see them willing to pony up an investment in something like that until it's well established. A typical egg/chicken situation......
At 16:10 7/29/02 -0700, you wrote:
Hello,
I am currently running a network of cisco 2621s with the OC-192 NM for my upstream connections. The internal network links are a mixture of K56Flex modems and GRE tunnels.
I am looking to upgrade to OC-768 real soon now and am wondering what the prospects are for OC-768 availability on the 2621 platform. I've found the 2621 to be rock-solid, except when I ping it, so I'd like to keep my network on that platform if possible.
In addition, if anyone knows the availability of OC-768 circuits between the following cities I'd appreciate any fiber maps and an approximate price range: Ottawa, ON, CA Midland, ON, CA Goderich, ON, CA Toronto, ON, CA Compton, CA, US Sealand
At each site I plan to announce a /24 from a /20 I was allocated so if everyone could please update their prefix filters now that would be great.
Thank you.
-- Dalph Roncaster
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HP was working on a "buble" switching device, I think the project's dead. John On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 07:53:43PM -0700, Scott Granados wrote:
Wasn't one of the major switch companies working on a system of bubbles. <seriously> I'm not sure if it was foundry or Juniper or who but someone was trying to route packets or rather switch packets in a device at high speed by using bubbles to reflect and switch the light instead of converting to electrons.
On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, blitz wrote:
Seriously, I don't see OC768 coming online en masse until they get the kinks worked out of optical switching. The transit times are so short thru the innards, in the order of picoseconds, that electronics is way too slow to perform such mundane tasks like determining where a packet is supposed to go. Thus, all this will require optical computing to be available cheaply and a lot more widespread than it is now. Cross your fingers and hope for a quantum breakthrough... OC192 is already pushing the limits of present technology. And add to that, the sorry state of the major players in telecom, and I don't think you'll see them willing to pony up an investment in something like that until it's well established. A typical egg/chicken situation......
At 16:10 7/29/02 -0700, you wrote:
Hello,
I am currently running a network of cisco 2621s with the OC-192 NM for my upstream connections. The internal network links are a mixture of K56Flex modems and GRE tunnels.
I am looking to upgrade to OC-768 real soon now and am wondering what the prospects are for OC-768 availability on the 2621 platform. I've found the 2621 to be rock-solid, except when I ping it, so I'd like to keep my network on that platform if possible.
In addition, if anyone knows the availability of OC-768 circuits between the following cities I'd appreciate any fiber maps and an approximate price range: Ottawa, ON, CA Midland, ON, CA Goderich, ON, CA Toronto, ON, CA Compton, CA, US Sealand
At each site I plan to announce a /24 from a /20 I was allocated so if everyone could please update their prefix filters now that would be great.
Thank you.
-- Dalph Roncaster
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--On Monday, July 29, 2002 21:32:02 -0400 blitz <blitz@macronet.net> wrote:
Seriously, I don't see OC768 coming online en masse until they get the kinks worked out of optical switching. The transit times are so short thru the innards, in the order of picoseconds, that electronics is way too slow to perform such mundane tasks like determining where a packet is supposed to go. Thus, all this will require optical computing to be available cheaply and a lot more widespread than it is now.
...and : a) Someone got the money to buy the gear b) We have used the current capacity (see a). - kurtis -
I believe Junpier does have a OC-768 interface under testing if I'm not mistaken... Signal received 0. Kurt Erik Lindqvist <kurtis@kurtis.pp.se> said:
--On Monday, July 29, 2002 21:32:02 -0400 blitz <blitz@macronet.net> wrote:
Seriously, I don't see OC768 coming online en masse until they get the kinks worked out of optical switching. The transit times are so short thru the innards, in the order of picoseconds, that electronics is way too slow to perform such mundane tasks like determining where a packet is supposed to go. Thus, all this will require optical computing to be available cheaply and a lot more widespread than it is now.
...and :
a) Someone got the money to buy the gear
b) We have used the current capacity (see a).
- kurtis -
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FYI, the technology seems like it might be available at the component level (dated 3/2002) http://www.eetimes.com/story/OEG20020313S0015 http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/020430/sftu082_1.html (april 2002?) http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/pcat/15808.htm (7/13/2002) Deepak Jain AiNET
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Dr. Mosh Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 12:35 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: OC-768 availability?
I believe Junpier does have a OC-768 interface under testing if I'm not mistaken...
Signal received 0. Kurt Erik Lindqvist <kurtis@kurtis.pp.se> said:
--On Monday, July 29, 2002 21:32:02 -0400 blitz
<blitz@macronet.net> wrote:
Seriously, I don't see OC768 coming online en masse until they get the kinks worked out of optical switching. The transit times are so short thru the innards, in the order of picoseconds, that electronics is way too slow to perform such mundane tasks like determining where
a packet is
supposed to go. Thus, all this will require optical computing to be available cheaply and a lot more widespread than it is now.
...and :
a) Someone got the money to buy the gear
b) We have used the current capacity (see a).
- kurtis -
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I believe many are working on it, but I haven't seen/heard of much progress since I learned of this, some 4 years ago now.. Add to that the bandwidth glut with all the DWDM and I guess they've got breathing room... At 09:34 7/30/02 -0700, you wrote:
I believe Junpier does have a OC-768 interface under testing if I'm not mistaken...
Signal received 0. Kurt Erik Lindqvist <kurtis@kurtis.pp.se> said:
--On Monday, July 29, 2002 21:32:02 -0400 blitz <blitz@macronet.net> wrote:
Seriously, I don't see OC768 coming online en masse until they get the kinks worked out of optical switching. The transit times are so short thru the innards, in the order of picoseconds, that electronics is way too slow to perform such mundane tasks like determining where a packet is supposed to go. Thus, all this will require optical computing to be available cheaply and a lot more widespread than it is now.
...and :
a) Someone got the money to buy the gear
b) We have used the current capacity (see a).
- kurtis -
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And my question is that a real oc768 or a Sears oc768. Like Cisco, sure its a gig E port but oh wait, you wanted to use it for more than 200 mb/s? On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, blitz wrote:
I believe many are working on it, but I haven't seen/heard of much progress since I learned of this, some 4 years ago now.. Add to that the bandwidth glut with all the DWDM and I guess they've got breathing room...
At 09:34 7/30/02 -0700, you wrote:
I believe Junpier does have a OC-768 interface under testing if I'm not mistaken...
Signal received 0. Kurt Erik Lindqvist <kurtis@kurtis.pp.se> said:
--On Monday, July 29, 2002 21:32:02 -0400 blitz <blitz@macronet.net> wrote:
Seriously, I don't see OC768 coming online en masse until they get the kinks worked out of optical switching. The transit times are so short thru the innards, in the order of picoseconds, that electronics is way too slow to perform such mundane tasks like determining where a packet is supposed to go. Thus, all this will require optical computing to be available cheaply and a lot more widespread than it is now.
...and :
a) Someone got the money to buy the gear
b) We have used the current capacity (see a).
- kurtis -
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Not a problem, available at Disneyland, visit the gift shop while u r there for those OC768 card for the cisco 2621. While u are there if u could pick me up one those DAVE license plates, I'd appreciate it! Sorry all I couldnt resist ;-) At 16:10 -0700 7/29/02, dalph@hushmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I am currently running a network of cisco 2621s with the OC-192 NM for my upstream connections. The internal network links are a mixture of K56Flex modems and GRE tunnels.
I am looking to upgrade to OC-768 real soon now and am wondering what the prospects are for OC-768 availability on the 2621 platform. I've found the 2621 to be rock-solid, except when I ping it, so I'd like to keep my network on that platform if possible.
In addition, if anyone knows the availability of OC-768 circuits between the following cities I'd appreciate any fiber maps and an approximate price range: Ottawa, ON, CA Midland, ON, CA Goderich, ON, CA Toronto, ON, CA Compton, CA, US Sealand
At each site I plan to announce a /24 from a /20 I was allocated so if everyone could please update their prefix filters now that would be great.
Thank you.
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You know, I'd be interested in one of the cisco 1605's with an oc48 wicc for home use. If you've got a spaire. I only want a /29's worth of ip space but be sure that you announce it to all your peers and make everyone accept the /29 even if its tagged no-export. Better yet, I'd like each individual /32 in the /29 prepended differently. On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 dalph@hushmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I am currently running a network of cisco 2621s with the OC-192 NM for my upstream connections. The internal network links are a mixture of K56Flex modems and GRE tunnels.
I am looking to upgrade to OC-768 real soon now and am wondering what the prospects are for OC-768 availability on the 2621 platform. I've found the 2621 to be rock-solid, except when I ping it, so I'd like to keep my network on that platform if possible.
In addition, if anyone knows the availability of OC-768 circuits between the following cities I'd appreciate any fiber maps and an approximate price range: Ottawa, ON, CA Midland, ON, CA Goderich, ON, CA Toronto, ON, CA Compton, CA, US Sealand
At each site I plan to announce a /24 from a /20 I was allocated so if everyone could please update their prefix filters now that would be great.
Thank you.
-- Dalph Roncaster
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