RE: Transit and Paid Peering Exchanges
From: "Dennis Jewth" <Dennis.Jewth@xchangepoint.net> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:03:41 +0100 To: "Daniel Golding" <dgolding@burtongroup.com> Cc: <nanog@merit.edu> Subject: Re: Transit and Paid Peering Exchanges
Hi Daniel
Really you need to reword that as exchanges used for peering and
provision/delivery, over which some networks may be paying for peering sessions.
We run a MAN in London connecting 7 co-lo's (including THouse North)
As far as I remember Band-X (http://www.band-x.com) do this. Dave. -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Golding To: Dennis Jewth Cc: nanog@merit.edu Sent: 08/10/03 10:11 Subject: Re: Transit and Paid Peering Exchanges Dennis, I'm not really looking at normal exchanges where some participants offer transit or partial transit. I'm looking at exchange fabrics specifically set up for the purpose of selling services, be they transit, partial transit, or paid peering. Most of these exchanges have web based administration, route servers, flow accounting, or some other combination of services. A good example is Equinix's Equinix Direct. Equinix maintains a series of exchange fabrics that are primarily for settlement free peering, but also has exchange fabrics set up, specifically, for buyers and sellers of services. Telehouse in NYC was doing something like this, as well. I'm not sure how far it has progressed. Thanks, Dan transit that is
used as the delivery platform for transit from the Carriers to ISPs and hosting companies. We are also a peering point.
Paid peering is more common in the US. In Europe some of the larger networks are talking about offering paid peering (and there may be already few doing it). It's to get that info out in the open from those doing it that's harder (hence your mail to Nanog, no doubt).
Are you looking at partial transit as well?
Dennis Jewth XchangePoint Europe www.xchangepoint.net
----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Golding" <dgolding@burtongroup.com> To: <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 9:31 AM Subject: Transit and Paid Peering Exchanges
Doing some research....
Anyone have a list of Transit and Paid Peering exchange fabrics?
I am interested in both US and EU locations, particularly in
interesting
sites like 111 8th Ave (NYC), Telehouse North (London) and other major telco hotel type facilities.
I'll summarize for the list and repost.
Thanks, -- Daniel Golding
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The last time I looked at Band-X (about six months ago) their pricing was ridiculous... I believe they wanted >$100/Mb, on a 100Mb commit, for Aleron or HE bandwidth. It should be noted that Band-X blocks potential buyers from learning the actual name of a transit provider, up until the very last moment (signing contract). They hide their transit sources behind anonymous "Company A, Company D" and so forth. Getting the actual name of a source from the band-x sales rep was like pulling teeth. -Eric Kuhnke eric@fnordsystems.com At 01:54 PM 10/8/2003 +0100, you wrote:
As far as I remember Band-X (http://www.band-x.com) do this.
Dave.
-----Original Message----- From: Daniel Golding To: Dennis Jewth Cc: nanog@merit.edu Sent: 08/10/03 10:11 Subject: Re: Transit and Paid Peering Exchanges
Dennis,
I'm not really looking at normal exchanges where some participants offer transit or partial transit. I'm looking at exchange fabrics specifically set up for the purpose of selling services, be they transit, partial transit, or paid peering.
Most of these exchanges have web based administration, route servers, flow accounting, or some other combination of services. A good example is Equinix's Equinix Direct. Equinix maintains a series of exchange fabrics that are primarily for settlement free peering, but also has exchange fabrics set up, specifically, for buyers and sellers of services.
Telehouse in NYC was doing something like this, as well. I'm not sure how far it has progressed.
Thanks, Dan
From: "Dennis Jewth" <Dennis.Jewth@xchangepoint.net> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:03:41 +0100 To: "Daniel Golding" <dgolding@burtongroup.com> Cc: <nanog@merit.edu> Subject: Re: Transit and Paid Peering Exchanges
Hi Daniel
Really you need to reword that as exchanges used for peering and transit provision/delivery, over which some networks may be paying for peering sessions.
We run a MAN in London connecting 7 co-lo's (including THouse North) that is used as the delivery platform for transit from the Carriers to ISPs and hosting companies. We are also a peering point.
Paid peering is more common in the US. In Europe some of the larger networks are talking about offering paid peering (and there may be already few doing it). It's to get that info out in the open from those doing it that's harder (hence your mail to Nanog, no doubt).
Are you looking at partial transit as well?
Dennis Jewth XchangePoint Europe www.xchangepoint.net
----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Golding" <dgolding@burtongroup.com> To: <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 9:31 AM Subject: Transit and Paid Peering Exchanges
Doing some research....
Anyone have a list of Transit and Paid Peering exchange fabrics?
I am interested in both US and EU locations, particularly in
interesting
sites like 111 8th Ave (NYC), Telehouse North (London) and other major telco hotel type facilities.
I'll summarize for the list and repost.
Thanks, -- Daniel Golding
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