Does anyone know if there is a device somewhere that is small, cheap, has 1 10mbit (or 100mbit) ethernet port and a small IP stack that enable you to set ip address and default gateway on it (dhcp perhaps?). I would like to put something like this at some customers to use for pinging to see that the customer is reachable. Cost should preferrably be in the $50-$100 range. -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se
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At 3:23 PM +0100 12/21/00, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
Does anyone know if there is a device somewhere that is small, cheap, has 1 10mbit (or 100mbit) ethernet port and a small IP stack that enable you to set ip address and default gateway on it (dhcp perhaps?).
I would like to put something like this at some customers to use for pinging to see that the customer is reachable. Cost should preferrably be in the $50-$100 range.
D-Link Residential Gateway, about $84 on Buy.com. It is a NAT box, configurable with a Windows GUI or directly through a serial port. Ethernet to the modem (e.g., xDSL) and ethernet to the local network. Does DHCP to the local hosts and can live with PPPOE. Accepts a static IP address. I have one at home, and it works well and is easy to set up. --Steve
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
Does anyone know if there is a device somewhere that is small, cheap, has 1 10mbit (or 100mbit) ethernet port and a small IP stack that enable you to set ip address and default gateway on it (dhcp perhaps?).
I would like to put something like this at some customers to use for pinging to see that the customer is reachable. Cost should preferrably be in the $50-$100 range.
Seems kind of a waste of a parallel port...but you should be able to find 10baseT/parallel print servers for at least as low as $45. I can't think of anything cheaper/smaller with ethernet and IP. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis *jlewis@lewis.org*| I route System Administrator | therefore you are Atlantic Net | _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________
RAD produce a whole range of tiny routers and similar products which are about the size of a transceiver, you'd have to check pricing tho, I think they're all above $100 but I'm not sure. www.rad.com Steve -- Stephen J. Wilcox Internet Manager, Opal Telecom http://www.opaltelecom.co.uk/ Tel: 0161 222 2000 Fax: 0161 222 2008 On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 jlewis@lewis.org wrote:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
Does anyone know if there is a device somewhere that is small, cheap, has 1 10mbit (or 100mbit) ethernet port and a small IP stack that enable you to set ip address and default gateway on it (dhcp perhaps?).
I would like to put something like this at some customers to use for pinging to see that the customer is reachable. Cost should preferrably be in the $50-$100 range.
Seems kind of a waste of a parallel port...but you should be able to find 10baseT/parallel print servers for at least as low as $45. I can't think of anything cheaper/smaller with ethernet and IP.
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Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
Does anyone know if there is a device somewhere that is small, cheap, has 1 10mbit (or 100mbit) ethernet port and a small IP stack that enable you to set ip address and default gateway on it (dhcp perhaps?).
I would like to put something like this at some customers to use for pinging to see that the customer is reachable. Cost should preferrably be in the $50-$100 range.
Netgear and Linksys sell "routers" (the quotes are intentional) aimed at the DSL/cable modem SOHO crowd but that can be used for any application with an Ethernet uplink. They're typically priced a bit over $100 and include other features, such as NAT, a DHCP server, etc. Some models also incorporate a built-in switch. Mark
Mikael , Is there a reason you don't want to ping the Ethernet port of the router? I think this would be more stable then any "HOST" on the network. -Chris gibiault@li.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Mikael Abrahamsson Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 9:24 AM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: small device with IP address Does anyone know if there is a device somewhere that is small, cheap, has 1 10mbit (or 100mbit) ethernet port and a small IP stack that enable you to set ip address and default gateway on it (dhcp perhaps?). I would like to put something like this at some customers to use for pinging to see that the customer is reachable. Cost should preferrably be in the $50-$100 range. -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Christopher Gibiault wrote:
Mikael ,
Is there a reason you don't want to ping the Ethernet port of the router? I think this would be more stable then any "HOST" on the network.
It would if we did it the classical way by putting a router in the customers facilities but we do not. One way we do it is by L2 hop (VLAN) the customer to a more centrally placed switchrouter and aggregate there. The customer is connected via fiber, using ethernet 10/100/1000 depending on the customer. The customer may only have a FX/TX-converter at their facility, or they may have a switch (of which will probably not have an IP address in the vlan the customer resides in). Also, I would like to address some IGP issues where routes are not propagated properly, our equipment is still reachable but the routes to the customer is not. Basically what I want to do is test it all the way. -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se
How about an APC UPS? If they have a UPS, you add a card to it. You then don't just ping, but see realtime data from there. ISTM there may be a temp/contact monitor I've heard of. And other suggested a printerserver... -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433
FYI - my experience with APCs and their DHCP functionality (something which was requested in the original posting) hasn't been great in the past. I've got several out in Europe and South America which failed to renew their leases not too long after I left the site. Sadly, I had to hand-configure their addresses. Admittedly, I haven't looked to see if this shortcoming has been resolved in later firmware releases, but it's something I've been sensitized to and have chosen to avoid altogether in the interest of reliability/expediency/etc. Jimmy At 5:28 PM -0500 12/21/00, David Lesher wrote:
How about an APC UPS?
If they have a UPS, you add a card to it. You then don't just ping, but see realtime data from there.
ISTM there may be a temp/contact monitor I've heard of.
And other suggested a printerserver...
-- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433
As a a historical note, before APC had there SNMP card for their UPS to give us line status (utility of no utility power), we sed a bunch of print servers left over from a local college which had their parallel port blown on them. We just plugged them in to the utility side, not the UPS, gave em an IP address, and pinged 'em with WhatsUp. Works great. At 05:28 PM 12/21/00 -0500, David Lesher wrote:
How about an APC UPS?
If they have a UPS, you add a card to it. You then don't just ping, but see realtime data from there.
ISTM there may be a temp/contact monitor I've heard of.
And other suggested a printerserver...
-- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433
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While we're on the topic of small devices... What are folks' experience with SNMP-manageable environmental sensors for temperature, humidity, electrical variations, etc., for remote monitoring of data closets, comm rooms, enclosed racks, etc.? I've tracked down two objects so far: AKCP, Inc. - http://www.kcpinc.com/sensors.html Sensorsoft - http://www.sensorsoft.com Any experiences with either? Any recommendations outside of these two products? Thanks, Jimmy
On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 04:17:07PM -0500, Jimmy Kyriannis wrote:
While we're on the topic of small devices... What are folks' experience with SNMP-manageable environmental sensors for temperature, humidity, electrical variations, etc., for remote monitoring of data closets, comm rooms, enclosed racks, etc.?
I've tracked down two objects so far:
AKCP, Inc. - http://www.kcpinc.com/sensors.html Sensorsoft - http://www.sensorsoft.com
Any experiences with either? Any recommendations outside of these two products?
i've been looking at the iButton stuff. you can get an evaluation kit from them (1 temp sensor and RS232 hookup) for $25. http://www.ibutton.com/ibuttons/thermochron.html#kit the advantage of using the iButton (actually 1-wire network) stuff, is that you can actually run multiple sensors off the same wire. they have temp and humidity sensors. more info on 1-wire from: http://www.dalsemi.com/ http://www.pointsix.com/ using a *nix box and ucd-snmp, it wouldn't take much to make the data snmp addressable. i'm planning on putting some of these in my cottage to look for leaks and to gauge the enjoyment factor of the upcoming weekend. although, i'm still trying to figure out a way to detect the frequency and strength of the bugzapper hits, so i can MRTG the blackflys. 8^) -- [ Jim Mercer jim@pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis.ca ] [ Reptilian Research -- Longer Life through Colder Blood ] [ aka jim@reptiles.org +1 416 410-5633 ]
While not pretty, there a few DSL or cable modem routers/internet sharing devices available at the consumer level (in the U.S.) that are in that price range. They have an ethernet interface, so you could conceivably ignore the DSL interface and just DHCP an address to the ethernet interface. I wouldn't be surprised if they have rudimentary SNMP support too. Vendors that have equipment in this price range include: Netgear, D-Link, Allied Telesyn, Linksys, SMC, and others. I have no experience with these, your YMMV. Deepak Jain AiNET On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Christopher Gibiault wrote:
Mikael ,
Is there a reason you don't want to ping the Ethernet port of the router? I think this would be more stable then any "HOST" on the network.
It would if we did it the classical way by putting a router in the customers facilities but we do not.
One way we do it is by L2 hop (VLAN) the customer to a more centrally placed switchrouter and aggregate there. The customer is connected via fiber, using ethernet 10/100/1000 depending on the customer. The customer may only have a FX/TX-converter at their facility, or they may have a switch (of which will probably not have an IP address in the vlan the customer resides in).
Also, I would like to address some IGP issues where routes are not propagated properly, our equipment is still reachable but the routes to the customer is not.
Basically what I want to do is test it all the way.
-- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se
sparc ipc/ipx on ebay? joelja On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
Does anyone know if there is a device somewhere that is small, cheap, has 1 10mbit (or 100mbit) ethernet port and a small IP stack that enable you to set ip address and default gateway on it (dhcp perhaps?).
I would like to put something like this at some customers to use for pinging to see that the customer is reachable. Cost should preferrably be in the $50-$100 range.
-- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joel Jaeggli joelja@darkwing.uoregon.edu Academic User Services consult@gladstone.uoregon.edu PGP Key Fingerprint: 1DE9 8FCA 51FB 4195 B42A 9C32 A30D 121E -------------------------------------------------------------------------- It is clear that the arm of criticism cannot replace the criticism of arms. Karl Marx -- Introduction to the critique of Hegel's Philosophy of the right, 1843.
Not very small, and has a hard drive...thus not very reliable, and prone to all sorts of nasty issues when it loses power unexpectedly. On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
sparc ipc/ipx on ebay?
joelja
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
Does anyone know if there is a device somewhere that is small, cheap, has 1 10mbit (or 100mbit) ethernet port and a small IP stack that enable you to set ip address and default gateway on it (dhcp perhaps?).
I would like to put something like this at some customers to use for pinging to see that the customer is reachable. Cost should preferrably be in the $50-$100 range.
-- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joel Jaeggli joelja@darkwing.uoregon.edu Academic User Services consult@gladstone.uoregon.edu PGP Key Fingerprint: 1DE9 8FCA 51FB 4195 B42A 9C32 A30D 121E -------------------------------------------------------------------------- It is clear that the arm of criticism cannot replace the criticism of arms. Karl Marx -- Introduction to the critique of Hegel's Philosophy of the right, 1843.
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it can also be reconfigured to boot from the cdrom by default, and that can have a disk in it with a minimal os on it. yes, you're trading one moving part for another, but i think it's a little more reliable. On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 11:43:15PM -0500, jlewis@lewis.org wrote:
Not very small, and has a hard drive...thus not very reliable, and prone to all sorts of nasty issues when it loses power unexpectedly.
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
sparc ipc/ipx on ebay?
joelja
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
Does anyone know if there is a device somewhere that is small, cheap, has 1 10mbit (or 100mbit) ethernet port and a small IP stack that enable you to set ip address and default gateway on it (dhcp perhaps?).
I would like to put something like this at some customers to use for pinging to see that the customer is reachable. Cost should preferrably be in the $50-$100 range.
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On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Andrew Brown wrote:
it can also be reconfigured to boot from the cdrom by default, and that can have a disk in it with a minimal os on it. yes, you're trading one moving part for another, but i think it's a little more reliable.
I guess I was not clear enough in my original post, but what I wanted was something that can be put out in quantities of 20-50. I have received several suggestions for various PC boxen that'll do the trick but they won't work because they take more than a few minutes to configure and they're way too bulky to handle in larger quantities. I think the D-link SOHO gateway is the closest thing so far. -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se
On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 11:43:15PM -0500, jlewis@lewis.org wrote:
Not very small, and has a hard drive...thus not very reliable, and prone to all sorts of nasty issues when it loses power unexpectedly.
I understand why it doesn't fit the immediate requirements, but I am feeling a sudden urge to speak up in defence of SPARC lunchboxes :) I have a SPARC classic in a very remote and cramped colo which is dropped and powered off semi-regularly. The temperature in the colo exceeds 40C during the southern summer. The machine exchanges about 5000 mail messages per day which, although not a huge load, is enough to keep the disk heads moving. And I've never lost a single bit of data :) Joe
but you can have them for $50ea. It was meant kinda in jest but the would work. power loss is not a big deal if you're adequatelly prepared... we used to run several as dedicated xterms (back in the day) with read-only file. people would power them on in the morning and turn them off at night... none of the users had the root password or even accounts on the box... joelja On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 jlewis@lewis.org wrote:
Not very small, and has a hard drive...thus not very reliable, and prone to all sorts of nasty issues when it loses power unexpectedly.
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
sparc ipc/ipx on ebay?
joelja
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
Does anyone know if there is a device somewhere that is small, cheap, has 1 10mbit (or 100mbit) ethernet port and a small IP stack that enable you to set ip address and default gateway on it (dhcp perhaps?).
I would like to put something like this at some customers to use for pinging to see that the customer is reachable. Cost should preferrably be in the $50-$100 range.
-- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joel Jaeggli joelja@darkwing.uoregon.edu Academic User Services consult@gladstone.uoregon.edu PGP Key Fingerprint: 1DE9 8FCA 51FB 4195 B42A 9C32 A30D 121E -------------------------------------------------------------------------- It is clear that the arm of criticism cannot replace the criticism of arms. Karl Marx -- Introduction to the critique of Hegel's Philosophy of the right, 1843.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis *jlewis@lewis.org*| I route System Administrator | therefore you are Atlantic Net | _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________
-- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joel Jaeggli joelja@darkwing.uoregon.edu Academic User Services consult@gladstone.uoregon.edu PGP Key Fingerprint: 1DE9 8FCA 51FB 4195 B42A 9C32 A30D 121E -------------------------------------------------------------------------- It is clear that the arm of criticism cannot replace the criticism of arms. Karl Marx -- Introduction to the critique of Hegel's Philosophy of the right, 1843.
: Does anyone know if there is a device somewhere that is small, cheap, has : 1 10mbit (or 100mbit) ethernet port and a small IP stack that enable you : to set ip address and default gateway on it (dhcp perhaps?). : : I would like to put something like this at some customers to use for : pinging to see that the customer is reachable. It wouldn't be that difficult to roll a simple Altoid-tin sized board w/ an enet port (he say's before he's done it:) Seriously, there are a # of SOC in development for refridgerator web-interfaces & the like. Question is, beyond pinging an isolated device, what's most useful ? Could tack on an interface for; temp sensors, power condition monitors, ect. (Bear in mind, increasing the feature-set, esp.code requiring more memory, adds dev time, cost,...) Further, how to best power; wall wart, batt, combination of the two ? Sounds like an interesting project, would it be worth the trip ? Opinions & comments please. What's important ? Tom
2000-12-22-11:30:28 Tom:
It wouldn't be that difficult to roll a simple Altoid-tin sized board w/ an enet port (he say's before he's done it:)
Sounds right to me.
Seriously, there are a # of SOC in development for refridgerator web-interfaces & the like.
SOC? Or SBC?
Question is, beyond pinging an isolated device, what's most useful?
Keep It Simple, no question.
Could tack on an interface for; temp sensors, power condition monitors, ect.
For cost/benefit tradeoff, I'd personally favour simply a temp sensor. I _think_ it oughta be possible to package a little wart including network I/F and simple-minded temp sensor that powers itself entirely off the ethernet interface itself, i.e. doesn't need any other power supply. Might need to be plugged in for a few seconds before it succeeds in storing enough reserves to make it through link negotiation, but if you could avoid having to plug into a power socket at all it'd be so much handier.
Further, how to best power; wall wart, batt, combination of the two ?
Definitely none of the above. How about a box that responds to just one protocol type, I'd tend to vote for a trivial UDP packet that it doesn't even bother decoding, just checks dst port and tears out src port and addr, with a reply packet containing whatever encoding is easiest to generate of the latest measurement off the temp sensor. -Bennett
Bennett Todd wrote:
How about a box that responds to just one protocol type, I'd tend to vote for a trivial UDP packet that it doesn't even bother decoding, just checks dst port and tears out src port and addr, with a reply packet containing whatever encoding is easiest to generate of the latest measurement off the temp sensor.
Just make sure it's not too simple. You want it to do some rudimentary filtering on the address. You don't want it sending packets to broadcast/multicast addresses. -- David
I don't know why I didn't think of this before. The RPC-3 devices from Bay Tecnnical Associates are small (1U) and on top of having an IP stack, they also serve as an 8-port power strip with each outlet individually controllable. They can also give temp and current measurements. (No snmp, you have to log into them.) RPC-3 Unit Status Menu. Enter selection, CR to exit. 1)...System 2)...Network Interface 3)...Logged Users 4)...Outlet Status Enter Selection>4 True RMS current: 4.4 Amps Maximum Detected: 5.2 Amps Internal Temperature: 33.0 C Circuit Breaker: On Selection Outlet Outlet Power Number Name Number Status 1 Happy 1 On 2 Dopey 2 On 3 Grumpy 3 On 4 Sneezy 4 On 5 Speedy 5 On 6 Mufasa 6 On 7 Foghorn 7 On 8 Tweety 8 On <Strike CR to continue.> Beyond this, they also have a console port so, if the net is down, you can still OOB into the device and perhaps power-cycle-fix the network problem. They DON'T fit your price range but, given the added functionality, they are well worth the cost just in the time they can potentially save you. A friend of mine is an authorized dealer for these devices so, if anyone is interested, let me know and I'll get him in touch with you. (He monitors NANOG, but lurks vs posting.) --- John Fraizer EnterZone, Inc
> The RPC-3 devices from Bay Tecnnical Associates are small (1U) and on top > of having an IP stack, they also serve as an 8-port power strip with each > outlet individually controllable. They can also give temp and current > measurements. (No snmp, you have to log into them.) Yep, we use these, and love them. I think they've added, or are adding, SSH support, in addition to the telnet that they do now. They're beautifully built, and in three or four years, we've never had a problem with one. The only caveat I'd give is that they do tend to run fairly warm. -Bill
I highly recommend these boxes also - we use them at COLT, anyone tried their new DC version or the US 220V stuff [for GSR] Neil.
I don't know why I didn't think of this before.
The RPC-3 devices from Bay Tecnnical Associates are small (1U) and on top of having an IP stack, they also serve as an 8-port power strip with each outlet individually controllable. They can also give temp and current measurements. (No snmp, you have to log into them.)
RPC-3 Unit Status Menu. Enter selection, CR to exit.
1)...System 2)...Network Interface 3)...Logged Users 4)...Outlet Status Enter Selection>4 True RMS current: 4.4 Amps Maximum Detected: 5.2 Amps
Internal Temperature: 33.0 C
Circuit Breaker: On
Selection Outlet Outlet Power Number Name Number Status 1 Happy 1 On 2 Dopey 2 On 3 Grumpy 3 On 4 Sneezy 4 On 5 Speedy 5 On 6 Mufasa 6 On 7 Foghorn 7 On 8 Tweety 8 On
<Strike CR to continue.>
Beyond this, they also have a console port so, if the net is down, you can still OOB into the device and perhaps power-cycle-fix the network problem.
They DON'T fit your price range but, given the added functionality, they are well worth the cost just in the time they can potentially save you.
A friend of mine is an authorized dealer for these devices so, if anyone is interested, let me know and I'll get him in touch with you.
(He monitors NANOG, but lurks vs posting.)
--- John Fraizer EnterZone, Inc
On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 03:23:45PM +0100, Mikael Abrahamsson scribbled: | Does anyone know if there is a device somewhere that is small, cheap, has | 1 10mbit (or 100mbit) ethernet port and a small IP stack that enable you | to set ip address and default gateway on it (dhcp perhaps?). | | I would like to put something like this at some customers to use for | pinging to see that the customer is reachable. Cost should preferrably be | in the $50-$100 range. No such devices at your price range exist that will do what you want. Attached is a post to freebsd-small@freebsd.org recently. I personally like the Advantech.com PCM5823, because it is the only one that does not have a PoS Realtek ethernet chipset. (It has Intel 82559.) http://www.advantech.com/products/PCM-5823.asp If you really want El Cheapo : http://www.advantech.com/products/PCM-4823.asp http://www.advantech.com/products/PCM-5820.asp Simply buy the single board computer, a 32mb CompactFlash disk, and a case. Roll your own Linux (perhaps FreeBSD :P) CF image. There are various already configured embedded *nix CF images available somewhere online. I am certain that they will give volume discounts. It would be $500 per pop for the whole thing. Also, if you know anybody who lives in Taiwan, their local prices are much cheaper than the prices for export. -- +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | keichii@peorth.iteration.net | keichii@bsdconspiracy.net | | http://peorth.iteration.net/~keichii | Yes, BSD is a conspiracy. | +------------------------------------------------------------------+
Look at the device at www.picoweb.net. Fully assembled webserver the size of a business card for $99.00 If you're handy with a soldering iron you can build it yourself for $25.00. They work well. Dave Hares
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Mikael Abrahamsson Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 9:24 AM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: small device with IP address
Does anyone know if there is a device somewhere that is small, cheap, has 1 10mbit (or 100mbit) ethernet port and a small IP stack that enable you to set ip address and default gateway on it (dhcp perhaps?).
I would like to put something like this at some customers to use for pinging to see that the customer is reachable. Cost should preferrably be in the $50-$100 range.
-- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se
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