From: Andrew Brown [mailto:twofsonet@graffiti.com] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 10:59 AM
that and a small perl script are how i get all the internet drafts and rfcs as they are published.
Do you seriously expect a marketing VP to write perl?
no. i expect someone to tell the marketing vp that emailing large documents is "wrong" and that someone will fedex them some floppies. or a zip disk. or a jaz disk. or a dlt tape containing a bzip2'ed copy of a hpodc cpio archive. in halfword swapped format. :)
but not email.
... and you expect to get this disk from Livermore to Chicago, in 5 minutes, ... how? Business moves at Internet speeds these days, in case you hadn't noticed. To put it in a way even understandable to techies; Collaborrative document, updated and swapped between 4 authors, and reviewed by two others, widely separated geo-physically. Revised and rewritten 5 times per day, for a week (Not counting NetMeetings). Trust me, management does work this way. Process run-time, with email = 1 week; with FedEx = 1 month. Process cost (transit only), with email <= $20, with FedEx = $4500 (FedEx = very happy) Real cost; Deal is blown out because deliverable is three weeks late. Instant lost revenue.
my opinion.
opinion: invalid.
i can think of lots of holes in that argument, but i'm not gonna go there. you think i'm wrong and i think you're wrong. we will have to agree to disagree. nanog is not a forum for holy wars. On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 12:00:22PM -0700, Roeland Meyer wrote:
From: Andrew Brown [mailto:twofsonet@graffiti.com] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 10:59 AM
that and a small perl script are how i get all the internet drafts and rfcs as they are published.
Do you seriously expect a marketing VP to write perl?
no. i expect someone to tell the marketing vp that emailing large documents is "wrong" and that someone will fedex them some floppies. or a zip disk. or a jaz disk. or a dlt tape containing a bzip2'ed copy of a hpodc cpio archive. in halfword swapped format. :)
but not email.
... and you expect to get this disk from Livermore to Chicago, in 5 minutes, ... how?
Business moves at Internet speeds these days, in case you hadn't noticed.
To put it in a way even understandable to techies;
Collaborrative document, updated and swapped between 4 authors, and reviewed by two others, widely separated geo-physically. Revised and rewritten 5 times per day, for a week (Not counting NetMeetings). Trust me, management does work this way.
Process run-time, with email = 1 week; with FedEx = 1 month.
Process cost (transit only), with email <= $20, with FedEx = $4500 (FedEx = very happy)
Real cost; Deal is blown out because deliverable is three weeks late. Instant lost revenue.
my opinion.
opinion: invalid.
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On Fri, 25 May 2001, Roeland Meyer wrote: [snip]
Business moves at Internet speeds these days, in case you hadn't noticed.
Including going out of bussiness at Internet speeds.
To put it in a way even understandable to techies;
Collaborrative document, updated and swapped between 4 authors, and reviewed by two others, widely separated geo-physically. Revised and rewritten 5 times per day, for a week (Not counting NetMeetings). Trust me, management does work this way.
Servers overloaded, underconfigured, running out of disk space. SMTP poorly suited to file transfer: 35% bandwidth and storage overhead.
Process run-time, with email = 1 week; with FedEx = 1 month.
Email spools fill. Process never completes, impacts dozens of other projects, hundreds of other employees.
Process cost (transit only), with email <= $20, with FedEx = $4500 (FedEx = very happy)
Tens of thousands of dollars in lost productivity caused by forcing an infrastructure to do what it wasn't designed to do.
Real cost; Deal is blown out because deliverable is three weeks late. Instant lost revenue.
Real cost; Not only is the deal blown, but others too.
my opinion.
opinion: invalid.
Your analysis: Short sighted. -- The comments and opinions expressed herein are those of the author of this message and may not reflect the policies of the Martin County Board of County Commissioners.
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