could someone else please check the dns for www.united.com? the servers for united.com seem to delegate www.united.com, but the delegatee seems not to return an soa. i get very confusing results. randy, feeling stoopid
[sk@lexus]$ host -a www.united.com Trying null domain Trying domain "isprime.com" rcode = 3 (Non-existent domain), ancount=0 Trying null domain Host not found, try again. Sincerely, Scott Kupferschmidt ISPrime, Inc. 866.502.4678 ext. 3 AIM: Scott ISPrime - ICQ: 174337249 On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, Randy Bush wrote:
could someone else please check the dns for www.united.com? the servers for united.com seem to delegate www.united.com, but the delegatee seems not to return an soa. i get very confusing results.
randy, feeling stoopid
On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 02:03:30PM +0900, Randy Bush wrote:
could someone else please check the dns for www.united.com? the servers for united.com seem to delegate www.united.com, but the delegatee seems not to return an soa. i get very confusing results.
Hmmmmmm host -t NS united.com: united.com name server dns02.uls-prod.com. united.com name server dns01.uls-prod.com. host -t A www.united.com dns01.uls-prod.com: www.united.com has address 64.95.89.8 host -t A www.united.com dns02.uls-prod.com: www.united.com has address 64.95.89.8 host -t SOA united.com dns01.uls-prod.com: united.com SOA ns0.uls-prod.com. hostinfo.ualloyalty.com. 2002112102 300 3600 604800 86400 host -t SOA united.com dns02.uls-prod.com: united.com SOA ns0.uls-prod.com. hostinfo.ualloyalty.com. 2002112102 300 3600 604800 86400 -- Avleen Vig "Say no to cheese-eating surrender-monkeys" Systms Admin "Fast, Good, Cheap. Pick any two." www.silverwraith.com "Move BSD. For great justice!"
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On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 02:03:30PM +0900, Randy Bush wrote:
could someone else please check the dns for www.united.com? the servers for united.com seem to delegate www.united.com, but the delegatee seems not to return an soa. i get very confusing results.
Hmmmmmm host -t NS united.com: united.com name server dns02.uls-prod.com. united.com name server dns01.uls-prod.com.
(Seems as though its in halfstates of being fixed... perhaps their admin(s) are watching the list?)
At 2:03 PM +0900 2/24/03, Randy Bush wrote:
could someone else please check the dns for www.united.com?
Doesn't look good... <rrv@emily> Home 3% dig @a.gtld-servers.net www.united.com ; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> @a.gtld-servers.net www.united.com ; (1 server found) ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2 ;; QUERY SECTION: ;; www.united.com, type = A, class = IN ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: united.com. 2D IN NS DC1LBS1.ULS-PROD.com. united.com. 2D IN NS DC2LBS1.ULS-PROD.com. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: DC1LBS1.ULS-PROD.com. 2D IN A 64.95.89.4 DC2LBS1.ULS-PROD.com. 2D IN A 64.95.88.4 ;; Total query time: 104 msec ;; FROM: emily.isdn.uiuc.edu to SERVER: a.gtld-servers.net 192.5.6.30 ;; WHEN: Sun Feb 23 23:37:35 2003 ;; MSG SIZE sent: 32 rcvd: 117 <rrv@emily> Home 4% dig @DC1LBS1.ULS-PROD.com. www.united.com. any ; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> @DC1LBS1.ULS-PROD.com. www.united.com. any ; (1 server found) ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 4 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUERY SECTION: ;; www.united.com, type = ANY, class = IN ;; Total query time: 55 msec ;; FROM: emily.isdn.uiuc.edu to SERVER: DC1LBS1.ULS-PROD.com. 64.95.89.4 ;; WHEN: Sun Feb 23 23:37:57 2003 ;; MSG SIZE sent: 32 rcvd: 32 <rrv@emily> Home 5% dig @DC2LBS1.ULS-PROD.com. www.united.com. any ; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> @DC2LBS1.ULS-PROD.com. www.united.com. any ; (1 server found) ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 4 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUERY SECTION: ;; www.united.com, type = ANY, class = IN ;; Total query time: 72 msec ;; FROM: emily.isdn.uiuc.edu to SERVER: DC2LBS1.ULS-PROD.com. 64.95.88.4 ;; WHEN: Sun Feb 23 23:38:32 2003 ;; MSG SIZE sent: 32 rcvd: 32 <rrv@emily> Home 6%
ross? lazarus arises! wow!
could someone else please check the dns for www.united.com? Doesn't look good...
they seem to be making similar messes with ual.com, ua2go, ... and all the stuff that links from their pages. but it probably 'works' if your host is not dual stack, could you please confirm? it's a plot to keep me from getting a reservation to ietf! randy ps: really nice to know you're still out there hackin'
On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 02:46:44PM +0900, Randy Bush wrote:
ross? lazarus arises! wow!
could someone else please check the dns for www.united.com? Doesn't look good...
they seem to be making similar messes with ual.com, ua2go, ... and all the stuff that links from their pages.
Just so United doesn't feel bad, www.aol.com also fails in a dual stack environment. -- Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)
Hmm...I've called one of their 800's before and had an option to select "3" to complain (er I mean talk to someone) about their website. Maybe you can reach someone who knows someone with a clue that way... -ron
I just called the IT help desk at corporate HQ (847-700-4000) and forwarded them the summary of the groups concerns, so its up to UAL now what to do about this. Todd Glassey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron da Silva" <ron@aol.net> To: <randy@psg.com>; <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 6:55 AM Subject: Re: untied
Hmm...I've called one of their 800's before and had an option to select "3" to complain (er I mean talk to someone) about their website. Maybe you can reach someone who knows someone with a clue that way...
-ron
On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, Ron da Silva wrote:
Hmm...I've called one of their 800's before and had an option to select "3" to complain (er I mean talk to someone)
hint: if you have a 'nonstandard' computer (not windows/mac) don't mention that or your complaint gets /dev/null'd :( experience.
about their website. Maybe you can reach someone who knows someone with a clue that way...
-ron
btw, for every answer from someone with clue also trying to debug united's little mess, i get six emails from idiots, a lawyer, wannabes, and other clue-free lurkers, whose inability to diagnose dns is amusing at best, telling me how it works for them. if you don't actually know the dns seriously, please get your finger away from the reply key. randy
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todd glassey