Re: larger space was: Re: [NIC-....
At 07:28 PM 2/15/96 -0500, The Heretic wrote:
The use of terms like 'shameful' are really out of line when discussing ideas born from different perspectives. We all know that the continuing deployment of a hierarchical routing model for the Internet means more routers sold; big ISPs get bigger; etc. ad infinitum.
Okay -- perhaps ludicrous is a more apropos term. Reality check: ISPs already force renumbering. And as several people have already stated [deja vu, many times over], this draft, if moved to BCP, has no teeth. It simply states that the idea of address ownership is null and void, and Joe's ISP decides to pull up stakes and move to another upstream provider [B] for whatever reason, Joe should not be surprised when his [A] provider asks him to return his address allocation so that its doesn't punch holes in his CIDR block. This makes sense to me. - paul
Paul kindly replies:
And as several people have already stated [deja vu, many times over], this draft, if moved to BCP, has no teeth. It simply states that the idea of address ownership is null and void, and Joe's ISP decides to pull up stakes and move to another upstream provider [B] for whatever reason, Joe should not be surprised when his [A] provider asks him to return his address allocation so that its doesn't punch holes in his CIDR block.
This makes sense to me.
- paul
Granted, CIDR space from ISPs allocated by ISPs to users should be stated in the services contract to be on loan from the ISP for services. On the other hand, address space allocated by a registry (US NIC, European RIPE, etc.) and announced by an ISP do not 'punch holes' in classless blocks and were assigned to the user. Furthermore, there will *never* be a 100 percent efficient hierarchical routing infrastructure; and the atmosphere to create it is destructive and counterproductive. Thanks for a reasonable reply, BTW; especially on an issue that tends to supercede logic and reason and stimulate emotion and conflict. Tim (The Heretic) +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Tim Bass | | | Principal Network Systems Engineer | "... the fates of men are bonded | | The Silk Road Group, Ltd. | one to the other by the cement | | | of wisdom." | | http://www.silkroad.com/ | Milan Kundera | | | | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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