Well, due to the lack of traffic, here's a question that I've been pondering...are there any good reasons (besides MCI's peering requirements) to go into the Pac Bell NAP as well as MAE-West and the PAIX? (This question probably won't have any impact on any decisions; I'm just curious as to people's thoughts on the matter, and it's nice to be able to post something here that isn't about net abuse.) *********************************************************************** J.D. Falk voice: +1-415-482-2840 Supervisor, Network Operations fax: +1-415-482-2844 PRIORI NETWORKS, INC. http://www.priori.net "The People You Know. The People You Trust." ***********************************************************************
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, J.D. Falk wrote:
Well, due to the lack of traffic, here's a question that I've been pondering...are there any good reasons (besides MCI's peering requirements) to go into the Pac Bell NAP as well as MAE-West and the PAIX?
YES, PACBell is MUCH more stable. PAIX is ok, but just not enough people there to be worth while Nathan Stratton President, NetRail,Inc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Phone (888)NetRail NetRail, Inc. Fax (404)522-1939 230 Peachtree Suite 500 WWW http://www.netrail.net/ Atlanta, GA 30303 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "No king is saved by the size of his army; no warrior escapes by his great strength. - Psalm 33:16
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, J.D. Falk wrote:
Well, due to the lack of traffic, here's a question that I've been pondering...are there any good reasons (besides MCI's peering requirements) to go into the Pac Bell NAP as well as MAE-West and the PAIX?
YES, PACBell is MUCH more stable. PAIX is ok, but just not enough people there to be worth while
It is true that there are more people at PacBell and MAE-West than there are at PAIX (for now). How that factors into the relative worth of connecting at an exchange point is up to the individual. While Nathan may feel that there are not enough people there to be worthwhile, there are others who feel that there are, or who assign that factor a lower weight when deciding where to go. Every exchange point has its pros and cons. How they are weighted is up to the individual. There are good reasons to go to PAIX, and good reasons to go to PacBell. They depend on what you want out of an exchange point. The more information you provide about what you want from an exchange point, the more likely that the discussion will objectively evaluate the exchange points against your criteria. The less you provide, the more likely we'll all just rehash the obvious. Stephen
I'd be interested in whatever stability or staffing issues you've had with the PAIX, since you're the first to mention it. I can't fix what doesn't seem broken. Also, if you could mention what services you think we should offer in order to be "worth while," I'd appreciate it. At 02:53 PM 06/24/1997 -0400, Nathan Stratton wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, J.D. Falk wrote:
Well, due to the lack of traffic, here's a question that I've been pondering...are there any good reasons (besides MCI's peering requirements) to go into the Pac Bell NAP as well as MAE-West and the PAIX?
YES, PACBell is MUCH more stable. PAIX is ok, but just not enough people there to be worth while
Nathan Stratton President, NetRail,Inc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Phone (888)NetRail NetRail, Inc. Fax (404)522-1939 230 Peachtree Suite 500 WWW http://www.netrail.net/ Atlanta, GA 30303 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "No king is saved by the size of his army; no warrior escapes by his great strength. - Psalm 33:16
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On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Jay Adelson wrote:
I'd be interested in whatever stability or staffing issues you've had with the PAIX, since you're the first to mention it. I can't fix what doesn't seem broken.
Also, if you could mention what services you think we should offer in order to be "worth while," I'd appreciate it.
Well when we fist started it was 24/7. I am sorry I said people I should have said peers. You guys have a great place, and I am happy I have hardware there. It will take time for more people to connect, but it is looking good so far. Hay, you guys pulled it off. I have a nice NAP, and I can't give space away. :-) Keep up the good work DEC.
At 02:53 PM 06/24/1997 -0400, Nathan Stratton wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, J.D. Falk wrote:
Well, due to the lack of traffic, here's a question that I've been pondering...are there any good reasons (besides MCI's peering requirements) to go into the Pac Bell NAP as well as MAE-West and the PAIX?
YES, PACBell is MUCH more stable. PAIX is ok, but just not enough people there to be worth while
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Nathan Stratton President, NetRail,Inc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Phone (888)NetRail NetRail, Inc. Fax (404)522-1939 230 Peachtree Suite 500 WWW http://www.netrail.net/ Atlanta, GA 30303 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "No king is saved by the size of his army; no warrior escapes by his great strength. - Psalm 33:16
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Nathan Stratton wrote:
YES, PACBell is MUCH more stable. PAIX is ok, but just not enough people there to be worth while
only problem is that we are *still* waiting for our PacBell connection at PAIX and it's been nearly 4.5 months now :) --- andrew khoo gsm: +61-416-161-234 speaks in home-grown tongue - ren sushi-eating good guy - wild wookie f*ck ya tongue, do the nose - paula
My only comment on this, is that there is virtually no limit to Pacific Bell facilities in the PAIX, so I have no idea what their delay is. They have infinite fiber capacity here. I've been told that ordering Pac Bell NAP services is difficult only because customers can't seem to find the right number to call! At 03:31 AM 06/26/1997 +1000, andrew khoo wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Nathan Stratton wrote:
YES, PACBell is MUCH more stable. PAIX is ok, but just not enough people there to be worth while
only problem is that we are *still* waiting for our PacBell connection at PAIX and it's been nearly 4.5 months now :)
--- andrew khoo gsm: +61-416-161-234
speaks in home-grown tongue - ren sushi-eating good guy - wild wookie f*ck ya tongue, do the nose - paula
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If you go to http://www.pacbell.com/products/business/fastrak/networking/nap/index.html there's a little button at the bottom called "how to order". Also, Warren Williams, who runs the NAP, I'm sure would be glad to put on his sales cap and help out. -peter At 01:51 PM 6/25/97 -0700, Jay Adelson wrote:
My only comment on this, is that there is virtually no limit to Pacific Bell facilities in the PAIX, so I have no idea what their delay is. They have infinite fiber capacity here. I've been told that ordering Pac Bell NAP services is difficult only because customers can't seem to find the right number to call!
At 03:31 AM 06/26/1997 +1000, andrew khoo wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Nathan Stratton wrote:
YES, PACBell is MUCH more stable. PAIX is ok, but just not enough people there to be worth while
only problem is that we are *still* waiting for our PacBell connection at PAIX and it's been nearly 4.5 months now :)
--- andrew khoo gsm: +61-416-161-234
speaks in home-grown tongue - ren sushi-eating good guy - wild wookie f*ck ya tongue, do the nose - paula
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On Thu, 26 Jun 1997, Peter Kline wrote:
If you go to
http://www.pacbell.com/products/business/fastrak/networking/nap/index.html
there's a little button at the bottom called "how to order".
Of course, a BIG button at http://www.pacbell.com called "how to order" would be preferable instead of 6 layers deep. -paul.
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