Horrible world trade center crash, traffic effect
I know this is Sean's job, but - FYI, 2 planes crashed into the world trade center. Sounds like on purpose. Not to be ghoulish, but the traffic impact is looking to be fairly large on the 'net (and on the PSTN in the NYC area). FYI, Avi
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Avi Freedman wrote:
FYI, 2 planes crashed into the world trade center. Sounds like on purpose.
Not to be ghoulish, but the traffic impact is looking to be fairly large on the 'net (and on the PSTN in the NYC area).
Just to add a few points: All VHF TV stations except for CBS 2 are off the air, many radio stations are off the air, and it's largely impossible to get a call in. All bridges and tunnels are closed (which I assume includes the PATH). A horrible thing to wake up to... could see the smoke out my bedroom window... C
FYI,
Avi
Listening to America Radio (out of DC - only thing we could get), and a man just called in saying that a plane just landed about 20 ft. from the Pentagon. Be careful if you are in a federal building today. Jake Baillie Personal Capacity On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Charles Sprickman wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Avi Freedman wrote:
FYI, 2 planes crashed into the world trade center. Sounds like on purpose.
Not to be ghoulish, but the traffic impact is looking to be fairly large on the 'net (and on the PSTN in the NYC area).
Just to add a few points:
All VHF TV stations except for CBS 2 are off the air, many radio stations are off the air, and it's largely impossible to get a call in. All bridges and tunnels are closed (which I assume includes the PATH).
A horrible thing to wake up to... could see the smoke out my bedroom window...
C
FYI,
Avi
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 09:39:41AM -0400, Charles Sprickman wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Avi Freedman wrote:
FYI, 2 planes crashed into the world trade center. Sounds like on purpose.
Not to be ghoulish, but the traffic impact is looking to be fairly large on the 'net (and on the PSTN in the NYC area).
Just to add a few points:
All VHF TV stations except for CBS 2 are off the air, many radio stations are off the air, and it's largely impossible to get a call in. All bridges and tunnels are closed (which I assume includes the PATH).
A horrible thing to wake up to... could see the smoke out my bedroom window...
A plane reportedly just flew into the pentagon in dc. I heard it on a local radio station. still trying to get more info... -b
C
FYI,
Avi
hi,
A plane reportedly just flew into the pentagon in dc. I heard it on a local radio station. still trying to get more info...
been confirmed by CNN. A third plane. The first was apparently a boeing 767, hijacked out of Boston. Bush has already appeared on national tv to announce it as a terroist attack, NYC is shut down, all airports are shut down. good luck:( m
I can see the smoke billowing up from the pentagon... this is a sad sad day... andy -- PGP Key Available at http://www.tigerteam.net/andy/pgp On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Mally Mclane wrote:
hi,
A plane reportedly just flew into the pentagon in dc. I heard it on a local radio station. still trying to get more info...
been confirmed by CNN. A third plane.
The first was apparently a boeing 767, hijacked out of Boston. Bush has already appeared on national tv to announce it as a terroist attack, NYC is shut down, all airports are shut down.
good luck:(
m
Just some additional information: One of the towers has collapsed completely. Additionally, FBI flash-traffic is indicating a threat of virus attack in conjunction. On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Mally Mclane wrote:
hi,
A plane reportedly just flew into the pentagon in dc. I heard it on a local radio station. still trying to get more info...
been confirmed by CNN. A third plane.
The first was apparently a boeing 767, hijacked out of Boston. Bush has already appeared on national tv to announce it as a terroist attack, NYC is shut down, all airports are shut down.
good luck:(
m
--- John Fraizer EnterZone, Inc
We're sitting here and watched the tower fall. NYC is insane, people (at this point, 30 blocks away) are starting to run in the streets. The entire island is locked down, you apparently CANNOT get off of Manhattan island. The second tower just went down. We're getting reports via phone from people about 10 blocks away. - Tom On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, John Fraizer wrote:
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:05:29 -0400 (EDT) From: John Fraizer <nanog@Overkill.EnterZone.Net> To: Mally Mclane <mally@mally.net> Cc: Brad Dreisbach <bradd@dn.net>, Charles Sprickman <spork@inch.com>, Avi Freedman <freedman@freedman.net>, nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Horrible world trade center crash, traffic effect
Just some additional information:
One of the towers has collapsed completely. Additionally, FBI flash-traffic is indicating a threat of virus attack in conjunction.
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Mally Mclane wrote:
hi,
A plane reportedly just flew into the pentagon in dc. I heard it on a local radio station. still trying to get more info...
been confirmed by CNN. A third plane.
The first was apparently a boeing 767, hijacked out of Boston. Bush has already appeared on national tv to announce it as a terroist attack, NYC is shut down, all airports are shut down.
good luck:(
m
--- John Fraizer EnterZone, Inc
-- -- Thomas P. Brisco tbrisco@globix.net Senior Network Architect 212-625-7073 Globix Corp.
Some good news... an eyewitness who was on the 81st floor of Tower 1(?) got out (along with everyone on his floor) before the collapse. Considering the towers were 110 stories high, that bodes well for evacuation of the towers post-crash... On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Thomas P. Brisco wrote:
We're sitting here and watched the tower fall. NYC is insane, people (at this point, 30 blocks away) are starting to run in the streets. The entire island is locked down, you apparently CANNOT get off of Manhattan island. The second tower just went down. We're getting reports via phone from people about 10 blocks away.
- Tom
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, John Fraizer wrote:
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:05:29 -0400 (EDT) From: John Fraizer <nanog@Overkill.EnterZone.Net> To: Mally Mclane <mally@mally.net> Cc: Brad Dreisbach <bradd@dn.net>, Charles Sprickman <spork@inch.com>, Avi Freedman <freedman@freedman.net>, nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Horrible world trade center crash, traffic effect
Just some additional information:
One of the towers has collapsed completely. Additionally, FBI flash-traffic is indicating a threat of virus attack in conjunction.
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Mally Mclane wrote:
hi,
A plane reportedly just flew into the pentagon in dc. I heard it on a local radio station. still trying to get more info...
been confirmed by CNN. A third plane.
The first was apparently a boeing 767, hijacked out of Boston. Bush has already appeared on national tv to announce it as a terroist attack, NYC is shut down, all airports are shut down.
good luck:(
m
--- John Fraizer EnterZone, Inc
-- -- Thomas P. Brisco tbrisco@globix.net Senior Network Architect 212-625-7073 Globix Corp.
More good news (for me, anyway): my son Nathan was at his desk on the 58th floor when the first plane hit and he escaped with no injuries. I don't know if he will still have a job, but at least he's safe. Info came via AIM. David Leonard ShaysNet.COM On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Charles Sprickman wrote:
Some good news... an eyewitness who was on the 81st floor of Tower 1(?) got out (along with everyone on his floor) before the collapse. Considering the towers were 110 stories high, that bodes well for evacuation of the towers post-crash...
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Thomas P. Brisco wrote:
We're sitting here and watched the tower fall. NYC is insane, people (at this point, 30 blocks away) are starting to run in the streets. The entire island is locked down, you apparently CANNOT get off of Manhattan island. The second tower just went down. We're getting reports via phone from people about 10 blocks away.
- Tom
Good News! I hope he's high-tailing it out of the city... Charles | Charles Sprickman | Internet Channel | INCH System Administration Team | (212)243-5200 | spork@inch.com | access@inch.com On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, M. David Leonard wrote:
More good news (for me, anyway): my son Nathan was at his desk on the 58th floor when the first plane hit and he escaped with no injuries. I don't know if he will still have a job, but at least he's safe. Info came via AIM.
David Leonard ShaysNet.COM
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Charles Sprickman wrote:
Some good news... an eyewitness who was on the 81st floor of Tower 1(?) got out (along with everyone on his floor) before the collapse. Considering the towers were 110 stories high, that bodes well for evacuation of the towers post-crash...
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Thomas P. Brisco wrote:
We're sitting here and watched the tower fall. NYC is insane, people (at this point, 30 blocks away) are starting to run in the streets. The entire island is locked down, you apparently CANNOT get off of Manhattan island. The second tower just went down. We're getting reports via phone from people about 10 blocks away.
- Tom
I have been told that the trade center bombing sentencing was scheduled for tomorrow. -- Dave's Engineering Page: http://www.dvanhorn.org I would have a link to http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?KC6ETE-9 here in my signature line, but due to the inability of sysadmins at TELOCITY to differentiate a signature line from the text of an email, I am forbidden to have it.
|Additionally, FBI flash-traffic is indicating a threat of virus attack in conjunction. A chemical virus? John Fraizer writes:
Just some additional information:
One of the towers has collapsed completely. Additionally, FBI flash-traffic is indicating a threat of virus attack in conjunction.
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Mally Mclane wrote:
hi,
A plane reportedly just flew into the pentagon in dc. I heard it on a local radio station. still trying to get more info...
been confirmed by CNN. A third plane.
The first was apparently a boeing 767, hijacked out of Boston. Bush has already appeared on national tv to announce it as a terroist attack, NYC is shut down, all airports are shut down.
good luck:(
m
--- John Fraizer EnterZone, Inc
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Seth M. Kusiak wrote:
|Additionally, FBI flash-traffic is indicating a threat of virus attack in conjunction.
A chemical virus?
i think so. the CDC is preparing bioterrorism teams, according to the (new refurbed) cnn.com site.... deeann m.m. mikula director of operations telerama public access internet http://www.telerama.com 1.877.688.3200
* Seth M. Kusiak <seth.kusiak@yours4less.com> [20010911 08:52]:
|Additionally, FBI flash-traffic is indicating a threat of virus attack in conjunction.
A chemical virus?
Where are you hearing about FBI flash-traffic? Thanks, -jr ---- Josh Richards <jrichard@{ geekresearch.com, cubicle.net }> [JTR38/JR539-ARIN] Geek Research, LLC - San Luis Obispo, CA - <URL:http://www.geekresearch.com/> KG6CYK - IP/Unix/telecom/knowledge/coffee/security/crypto/business/geek
Directly. On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Josh Richards wrote:
* Seth M. Kusiak <seth.kusiak@yours4less.com> [20010911 08:52]:
|Additionally, FBI flash-traffic is indicating a threat of virus attack in conjunction.
A chemical virus?
Where are you hearing about FBI flash-traffic?
Thanks,
-jr
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--- John Fraizer EnterZone, Inc
Also sprach Mally Mclane
A plane reportedly just flew into the pentagon in dc. I heard it on a local radio station. still trying to get more info...
been confirmed by CNN. A third plane.
The first was apparently a boeing 767, hijacked out of Boston. Bush has already appeared on national tv to announce it as a terroist attack, NYC is shut down, all airports are shut down.
To add just a smidgen to that...all aircraft in the air have been ordered to land at the nearest airport. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456
hi,
A plane reportedly just flew into the pentagon in dc. I heard it on a local radio station. still trying to get more info...
been confirmed by CNN. A third plane.
The first was apparently a boeing 767, hijacked out of Boston. Bush has already appeared on national tv to announce it as a terroist attack, NYC is shut down, all airports are shut down.
good luck:(
m
I live about 4 miles from the Pentagon, and heard a distant explosion Local TV is showing an apparently intact building, although there is smoke on the far side, in the direction of National Airport. There are conflicting reports if a helicopter or an airliner, or both, hit near the Pentagon, but the building itself does not seem to have taken massive damage. Obviously, there are lots of sounds of emergency vehicles. I started hearing high-speed passes of what sounded like jet fighters starting about an hour ago. There was another sound at about 10:20, which shook my windows. It was about the magnitude of a very large fireworks burst down on the Mall. Can't say if it was a secondary explosion, a sonic boom, or what. Howard
There are conflicting reports if a helicopter or an airliner, or both, hit near the Pentagon, but the building itself does not seem to have taken massive damage.
Report that a plan crashed into the helicopter landing pad, which would account for the conflicting reports. The majority of the Pentagon is underground, and fairly hardened (from what I have been told) -- /ak
Slashdot is reporting a rumor that Akamai's founder was onboard a plane into NYC at about the time of the crash. Can someone from Akamai confirm or deny? Thanks, Tim
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/010911/112407_1.html andy -- PGP Key Available at http://www.tigerteam.net/andy/pgp On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Tim Brown wrote:
Slashdot is reporting a rumor that Akamai's founder was onboard a plane into NYC at about the time of the crash. Can someone from Akamai confirm or deny?
Thanks, Tim
Once upon a time, Tim Brown <timothy.brown@pobox.com> said:
Slashdot is reporting a rumor that Akamai's founder was onboard a plane into NYC at about the time of the crash. Can someone from Akamai confirm or deny?
I don't presume to speak for Akamai, but both Avi Freedman and Patrick Greenwell have confirmed this on inet-access, and there is also an official news release at: http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/010911/112407_1.html Definately a sad day for a company that is playing a role in helping the news services to get the word out today. -- Chris Adams <cmadams@hiwaay.net> Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Tim Brown <timothy.brown@pobox.com> said:
Slashdot is reporting a rumor that Akamai's founder was onboard a plane into NYC at about the time of the crash. Can someone from Akamai confirm or deny?
I don't presume to speak for Akamai, but both Avi Freedman and Patrick Greenwell have confirmed this on inet-access, and there is also an official news release at:
Minor correction: Patrick Gilmore works for Akamai, and confirmed. Patrick Greenwell(me) didn't.
Akamai has sent out a press release about it. It IS true. -S SysAdmin sberube@zks.net When the printer won't print, re-send the job at least 20 times. Print jobs frequently just disappear into the cosmos for no reason. On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Tim Brown wrote:
Slashdot is reporting a rumor that Akamai's founder was onboard a plane into NYC at about the time of the crash. Can someone from Akamai confirm or deny?
Thanks, Tim
The Boston Globe (www.boston.com) is reporting Dan Lewis (co-founder and on the board) of Akamai was on AA11 which crashed into the Souther Tower. Shel On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 01:32:47PM -0400, Tim Brown wrote:
Slashdot is reporting a rumor that Akamai's founder was onboard a plane into NYC at about the time of the crash. Can someone from Akamai confirm or deny?
Thanks, Tim
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A new plane just crashed in Dayton, OH at a VA hospital - rumor from the President's sister... can anyone confirm? -- jake
<http://www.activedayton.com/partners/whiotv/news/0911_vacenter.html> False alarm... Sonic Booms Rock Dayton Area WHIO-TV, NEWSCENTER 7 Two sonic booms rocked the Dayton area late Tuesday afternoon. The sounds prompted unconfirmed reports of a possible plane crash near the Veterans Administration Center in Dayton. A white plume of smoke seen rising in the area was from an unrelated grass fire. On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Jake Baillie wrote:
A new plane just crashed in Dayton, OH at a VA hospital - rumor from the President's sister... can anyone confirm?
-- jake
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I can absolutely deny that. What caused this rumor was two sonic booms caused by jet fighter aircraft that were scrambling to escort Air Force 1. (It passed directly over my house with the escorts) There was ALSO a grass fire behind the VA hospital. When people who are unfamiliar with sonic booms and air crashes hear the booms, see the smoke from the grass fire, they assume that it's a crash. We heard the rumor as well. I confirmed with an onsite observer at the VA Hospital with the Central Ohio Amateur Radio Emergency Service. There was NO CRASH at Dayton. --- John Fraizer, KC4KGU EnterZone, Inc On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Jake Baillie wrote:
A new plane just crashed in Dayton, OH at a VA hospital - rumor from the President's sister... can anyone confirm?
-- jake
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001, Jake Baillie wrote:
A new plane just crashed in Dayton, OH at a VA hospital - rumor from the President's sister... can anyone confirm?
No plane crash in Dayton, OH. It was a grass fire. Moments before the fire, there was a couple of loud booms. This was caused by a couple of jet fighters from WPAFB. Speculation is, they were clearing the air space for Airforce-1, as it's flight path most likely would have brought them through here, on it's way back to D.C. Just curious, but are people going looney at the gas stations in your neck of the woods too? I was barely able to get into my apartment complex due to the line that extended two blocks away from the gas station...
-- jake
-- Robert Hough (rch@acidpit.org)
News is saying $5 a gallon, y2k all over again. On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Robert Hough wrote:
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001, Jake Baillie wrote:
A new plane just crashed in Dayton, OH at a VA hospital - rumor from the President's sister... can anyone confirm?
No plane crash in Dayton, OH. It was a grass fire. Moments before the fire, there was a couple of loud booms. This was caused by a couple of jet fighters from WPAFB. Speculation is, they were clearing the air space for Airforce-1, as it's flight path most likely would have brought them through here, on it's way back to D.C.
Just curious, but are people going looney at the gas stations in your neck of the woods too? I was barely able to get into my apartment complex due to the line that extended two blocks away from the gas station...
-- jake
-- Robert Hough (rch@acidpit.org)
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Todd Suiter wrote:
News is saying $5 a gallon, y2k all over again.
Not here...at least not yet...but I filled up at $1.66/gallon on my way to lunch just in case. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis *jlewis@lewis.org*| I route System Administrator | therefore you are Atlantic Net | _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________
Check this story out for a update on the gas situation http://biz.yahoo.com/apf/010911/attacks_gas_prices_3.html ----- Original Message ----- From: <jlewis@lewis.org> To: "Todd Suiter" <todd@s4r.com> Cc: <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:08 AM Subject: Re: Horrible world trade center crash, traffic effect
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Todd Suiter wrote:
News is saying $5 a gallon, y2k all over again.
Not here...at least not yet...but I filled up at $1.66/gallon on my way to lunch just in case.
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Todd Suiter wrote:
News is saying $5 a gallon, y2k all over again.
It's been quiet here. Cleveland's mayor insisted that everyone keep their gas below $2/gallon. I'm out here in Lake County and haven't had the opportunity to look around yet. -- JustThe.net LLC - Steve "Web Dude" Sobol, CTO - sjsobol@JustThe.net Donate a portion of your monthly ISP bill to your favorite charity or non-profit organization! E-mail me for details.
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Robert Hough wrote:
Just curious, but are people going looney at the gas stations in your neck of the woods too? I was barely able to get into my apartment complex due to the line that extended two blocks away from the gas station...
-- jake
Oh Yes!!! Some gas staions here ahve gas up at well over $4.00/gal, and people are waiting in *very* long (several-hours-long) to fill up on the older cheap stuff (while it lasts...) -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------
We're keeping a list of those stations who are raping consumers on gas prices. Especially those who raised the price to $4+ as early as noon on the 11th. I'll run my vehicle dry and call AAA before I patronize them. It's sickening what some people will do to make a quick buck. --- John Fraizer EnterZone, Inc On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 measl@mfn.org wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Robert Hough wrote:
Just curious, but are people going looney at the gas stations in your neck of the woods too? I was barely able to get into my apartment complex due to the line that extended two blocks away from the gas station...
-- jake
Oh Yes!!! Some gas staions here ahve gas up at well over $4.00/gal, and people are waiting in *very* long (several-hours-long) to fill up on the older cheap stuff (while it lasts...)
-- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org
If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------
On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, John Fraizer wrote:
We're keeping a list of those stations who are raping consumers on gas prices. Especially those who raised the price to $4+ as early as noon on the 11th. I'll run my vehicle dry and call AAA before I patronize them. It's sickening what some people will do to make a quick buck.
Photograph the price signs, the supervisors and employees on site, and get names. Then report to your state attorney general. It's illegal, it's sickening, and I hope they prosecute. -Dan -- [-] Omae no subete no kichi wa ore no mono da. [-]
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 02:15:59 -0400 (EDT) From: John Fraizer <nanog@Overkill.EnterZone.Net>
We're keeping a list of those stations who are raping consumers on gas prices. Especially those who raised the price to $4+ as early as noon on the 11th. I'll run my vehicle dry and call AAA before I patronize them. It's sickening what some people will do to make a quick buck.
Heard on the radio that, in KS, the state Atty General is rather interested in knowing which stations are extorting people. Other states are probably the same. I agree... keep a list, turn it in to your state Attorney General, and make the list as public as possible. Eddy --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brotsman & Dreger, Inc. - EverQuick Internet Division Phone: +1 (316) 794-8922 Wichita/(Inter)national Phone: +1 (785) 865-5885 Lawrence --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:23:58 +0000 (GMT) From: A Trap <blacklist@brics.com> To: blacklist@brics.com Subject: Please ignore this portion of my mail signature. These last few lines are a trap for address-harvesting spambots. Do NOT send mail to <blacklist@brics.com>, or you are likely to be blocked.
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 measl@mfn.org wrote:
Oh Yes!!! Some gas staions here ahve gas up at well over $4.00/gal, and people are waiting in *very* long (several-hours-long) to fill up on the older cheap stuff (while it lasts...)
At least one state is already looking into criminal prosecution of price gougers... it's sickening to see shitbag opportunists looking to exploit a national tragedy. -Dan -- [-] Omae no subete no kichi wa ore no mono da. [-]
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Sheldon Dubrowin wrote:
The Boston Globe (www.boston.com) is reporting Dan Lewis (co-founder and on the board) of Akamai was on AA11 which crashed into the Souther Tower.
it is also being confirmed by Reuters...
CNN now reporting missile activity in Kabul, at this point nobody knows anything. -- Dave's Engineering Page: http://www.dvanhorn.org I would have a link to http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?KC6ETE-9 here in my signature line, but due to the inability of sysadmins at TELOCITY to differentiate a signature line from the text of an email, I am forbidden to have it.
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 01:32:47PM -0400, Tim Brown wrote:
Slashdot is reporting a rumor that Akamai's founder was onboard a plane into NYC at about the time of the crash.
From a friend at Akamai:
http://us.news2.yimg.com/f/42/31/7m/dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010911/bs/cra... On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Tim Brown wrote:
Slashdot is reporting a rumor that Akamai's founder was onboard a plane into NYC at about the time of the crash. Can someone from Akamai confirm or deny?
Thanks, Tim
-- Alex Rubenstein, AR97, K2AHR, alex@nac.net, latency, Al Reuben -- -- Net Access Corporation, 800-NET-ME-36, http://www.nac.net --
http://www.akamai.com/ Akamai Technologies Mourns the Loss of Co-Founder and CTO Daniel Lewin Cambridge, MA, September 11, 2001 - With great sadness, Akamai Technologies, Inc. today announced the passing of Daniel C. Lewin, co-founder, chief technology officer and board member of the Company. American Airlines confirmed that he was on board the Boston to Los Angeles flight that crashed in New York City today. Danny was 31 years old and is survived by his wife and two sons. Lucy E. Lynch Academic User Services Computing Center University of Oregon llynch@darkwing.uoregon.edu (541) 346-1774 Cell: (541) 912-7998 5419127998@mobile.att.net On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Alex Rubenstein wrote:
http://us.news2.yimg.com/f/42/31/7m/dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010911/bs/cra...
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Tim Brown wrote:
Slashdot is reporting a rumor that Akamai's founder was onboard a plane into NYC at about the time of the crash. Can someone from Akamai confirm or deny?
Thanks, Tim
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At 01:32 PM 9/11/2001 -0400, Tim Brown wrote:
Slashdot is reporting a rumor that Akamai's founder was onboard a plane into NYC at about the time of the crash. Can someone from Akamai confirm or deny?
[Copied from a post on another list] Danny Lewin, co-founder of Akamai technologies, was in one of the planes: <http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/010911/112407_1.html> Danny was a buddy of mine, and many, many people at Akamai. We will all dearly miss him. He was not just an executive at a big company. He honestly did drive our corporation and give us all a boost, emotionally, professionally. His loss will be felt profoundly, on a very personal level. Of course, many people from all over the world will be feeling this type of loss today. I do not mean to trivialize their loss, just want to honor Danny's memory. Sorry for the off-topic post.
Tim
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http://www.montereyca.com/rc/business/docs/10029699.htm On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 01:32:47PM -0400, Tim Brown wrote:
Slashdot is reporting a rumor that Akamai's founder was onboard a plane into NYC at about the time of the crash. Can someone from Akamai confirm or deny?
Thanks, Tim
-- Jean Francois - JLF Sends... Some people never learn from history. Terrorists attack the United States - Sep 11, 2001 Japanese sneak attack on Pearl Harbor on Dec. 8, 1941, the architect of the plan, Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, was worried. We may have awakened a sleeping tiger, he said.
Apparently Kabul, Afghanistan is being attacked by missles apparently. No word if it is US based or what. But CNN has pictures of it.. mike On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, J.Francois wrote:
http://www.montereyca.com/rc/business/docs/10029699.htm
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 01:32:47PM -0400, Tim Brown wrote:
Slashdot is reporting a rumor that Akamai's founder was onboard a plane into NYC at about the time of the crash. Can someone from Akamai confirm or deny?
Thanks, Tim
-- Jean Francois - JLF Sends... Some people never learn from history. Terrorists attack the United States - Sep 11, 2001 Japanese sneak attack on Pearl Harbor on Dec. 8, 1941, the architect of the plan, Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, was worried. We may have awakened a sleeping tiger, he said.
Slashdot is reporting a rumor that Akamai's founder was onboard a plane into NYC at about the time of the crash. Can someone from Akamai confirm or deny?
has been confirmed, CTO/founder on flight 11. --- Terence C. Giufre-Sweetser +---------------------------------+--------------------------+ | TereDonn Telecommunications Ltd | Phone +61-[0]7-32369366 | | 1/128 Bowen St, SPRING HILL | FAX +61-[0]7-32369930 | | PO BOX 1054, SPRING HILL 4004 | Mobile +61-[0]414-663053 | | Queensland Australia | http://www.tdce.com.au | +---------------------------------+--------------------------+
Actually, local news here in Washington, DC (WJLA Ch7 and WRC Ch4) is showing video footage of the damage to the Pentagon on the side next to the heliport pad. It is possible that there was confusion b/c the damage occured on the side of the Pentagon that is next to the helicopter landing pad. However, an eyewitness on the news reported that he saw the American Airlines plane crash into the side of the building. The damage is quite extensive since it appears the plane was able to punch through from the outer ring all the way to the center court yard. The roof over this section has also collapsed. Also, despite some reports from the news, the Pentagon is primarily *above* ground. Having spent a couple of years working for the Pentagon Renovation program and seeing many areas of the Pentagon few have seen (some not so glamorous like steam tunnels), there are only 2 levels below ground. These levels do not exist under the entire Pentagon. ____________________________________________________________ Wayne Gustavus CCIE #7426,CCNP 703-582-9594 Consultant, email: wgustavus@mentortech.com Mentor Technologies, Inc. www.mentortech.com **** Formerly Chesapeake Network Solutions **** ____________________________________________________________ PGP Key: http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Alex Kamantauskas Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:20 PM To: Howard C. Berkowitz Cc: nanog@merit.org Subject: Re: Horrible world trade center crash, traffic effect
There are conflicting reports if a helicopter or an airliner, or both, hit near the Pentagon, but the building itself does not seem to have taken massive damage.
Report that a plan crashed into the helicopter landing pad, which would account for the conflicting reports. The majority of the Pentagon is underground, and fairly hardened (from what I have been told) -- /ak
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: The hit was a surgical hit at the nerve center of pentagon's Command and Control center. --Ariel
hearing high-speed passes of what sounded like jet fighters starting about an hour ago. There was another sound at about 10:20, which shook my windows.It was about the magnitude of a very large fireworks burst down on the Mall. Can't say if it was a secondary explosion, a sonic boom, or what.
Howard
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
The hit was a surgical hit at the nerve center of pentagon's Command and Control center.
Nonsense. The National Military Command Center is on the other side of the building. Surgical?
--Ariel
hearing high-speed passes of what sounded like jet fighters starting about an hour ago. There was another sound at about 10:20, which shook my windows.It was about the magnitude of a very large fireworks burst down on the Mall. Can't say if it was a secondary explosion, a sonic boom, or what.
Howard
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I have worked in that building and you are wrong. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ariel Biener" <ariel@fireball.tau.ac.il> To: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <hcb@clark.net> Cc: <nanog@merit.org> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:20 PM Subject: Re: Horrible world trade center crash, traffic effect
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
The hit was a surgical hit at the nerve center of pentagon's Command and Control center.
--Ariel
hearing high-speed passes of what sounded like jet fighters starting about an hour ago. There was another sound at about 10:20, which shook my windows.It was about the magnitude of a very large fireworks burst down on the Mall. Can't say if it was a secondary explosion, a sonic boom, or what.
Howard
-- Ariel Biener e-mail: ariel@post.tau.ac.il PGP(6.5.8) public key http://www.tau.ac.il/~ariel/pgp.html
The hit was a surgical hit at the nerve center of pentagon's Command and Control center.
estimations of 800 dead being reported, the "e to c" rings were comprimised at the pentagon, so the damage we see on the TV is only 20% of the actual problem. --- Terence C. Giufre-Sweetser +---------------------------------+--------------------------+ | TereDonn Telecommunications Ltd | Phone +61-[0]7-32369366 | | 1/128 Bowen St, SPRING HILL | FAX +61-[0]7-32369930 | | PO BOX 1054, SPRING HILL 4004 | Mobile +61-[0]414-663053 | | Queensland Australia | http://www.tdce.com.au | +---------------------------------+--------------------------+
Non-operational but under the circumstances...... I am watching here on satellite Sky News and CNN. Someone out there with a pretty sick mind. Whoever is responsible for this has competely outed themselves. Sick, extremly sick. Dave -- Dave Morton Private: Am Heckenacker 8 85652 Pliening bei Muenchen Germany Tel: +49 8121 976 651 Fax: +49 8121 976 652 Mobile: +49 178 445 6208 E-mail: dave@manbitesdog.net
(This isn't operational content, but it may become so in the future) On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:55:26 +0200, Dave Morton <dave@manbitesdog.de> said:
I am watching here on satellite Sky News and CNN. Someone out there with a pretty sick mind. Whoever is responsible for this has competely outed themselves.
From there, they have come up with an incredibly good attack when measured on a casualty basis - assume 4 airliners, and 3 operatives per airliner. Any military commander would be
This attitude is one that we have to combat if we have any hope of winning a war that involves terrorism. The people responsible were *NOT* sick. They were *very* logical, well-prepared, methodical, and rational. The problem is that they started with their world-view, which included the concept that Western civilization as we know it must be destroyed. proud of an operation that had 12 casualties on their side, and thousands on the enemy's side. Combined with the second-order economic impact of airline shutdown and widespread closures, and the third-order impact of making the enemy nervous, they've suceeded in their goals. We shy away from injuring non-combatant civilians. Under their rules, civilians are not non-combatants because civilians are supporting the Western civilization the terrorists are at war with. Remember that *WE* didn't have qualms about civilians killed in bombing runs on German factories - the terrorists are merely taking a slightly wider definition of combatant... Regarding them as sick/twisted is very dangerous. They're rational, intelligent, and reasoning from different ground rules. And remember - the US dropped 2 nukes. I'm sure the residents of a few Japanese cities thought that Truman was sick and twisted for allowing it to happen. Valdis Kletnieks Operating Systems Analyst Virginia Tech
At 13:09 11/09/01 -0400, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
The people responsible were *NOT* sick. They were *very* logical, well-prepared, methodical, and rational. The problem is that
Exceedingly logical: the reason a clear blue-sky day was picked was twofold: easier to navigate with clearsite rather than in clouds and rain and more importantly, they wanted the world to see the clear picture of what they did, which would not be so clear in a rainy and overcast day. -Hank
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Charles Sprickman wrote:
FYI, 2 planes crashed into the world trade center. Sounds like on purpose.
Not to be ghoulish, but the traffic impact is looking to be fairly large on the 'net (and on the PSTN in the NYC area).
Just to add a few points:
All VHF TV stations except for CBS 2 are off the air, many radio stations are off the air, and it's largely impossible to get a call in. All bridges and tunnels are closed (which I assume includes the PATH).
...and news now includes the white house and the pentagon being evacutated, the pentagon due to an airplane crash - the white house due to a fire. This shows a pretty impressive degree of coordination. Beyond that, all US airports have been closed. Gonna be a long day. c. ========================================================================== "A cat spends her life conflicted between a deep, passionate and profound desire for fish and an equally deep, passionate and profound desire to avoid getting wet. This is the defining metaphor of my life right now."
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Charles Sprickman wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Avi Freedman wrote:
FYI, 2 planes crashed into the world trade center. Sounds like on purpose.
Not to be ghoulish, but the traffic impact is looking to be fairly large on the 'net (and on the PSTN in the NYC area).
few people (in pgh, PA) that i have been talking to on irc have reported ./'d news sites everywhere. (cnn.com, yahoo.com, msnbc.com, etc.) my office has been relegated am radio, which is pretty pathetic for an ISP. pretty poor performance for a network orginally designed to faciliate communication in just such circumstances. i hope that military and federal communication is faring better than the commercial sites.
All VHF TV stations except for CBS 2 are off the air, many radio stations are off the air, and it's largely impossible to get a call in. All
i assume that in nyc or dc only. we are listening to AM radio just fine... deeann m.m. mikula director of operations telerama public access internet http://www.telerama.com 1.877.688.3200
The trade centers previously were a major nesting site for TV/Radio antenna. The only reliable reports we are getting at this piont is from direct observers, or (if you are lucky enough to get a phone line) reports from NJ. - Tom
i assume that in nyc or dc only. we are listening to AM radio just fine...
deeann m.m. mikula
director of operations telerama public access internet http://www.telerama.com 1.877.688.3200
-- -- Thomas P. Brisco tbrisco@globix.net Senior Network Architect 212-625-7073 Globix Corp.
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Thomas P. Brisco wrote:
The trade centers previously were a major nesting site for TV/Radio antenna. The only reliable reports we are getting at this piont is from direct observers, or (if you are lucky enough to get a phone line) reports from NJ.
I know I and others have said it before, but this is an excellent use for HAM radios. There's no license requirements to use in emergency situations. A trunking capable radio might be good as well to listen in on the emergency systems if they're using trunking. Regards, -- Joseph W. Shaw II Network Security Specialist/CCNA Unemployed. Will hack for food. God Bless. Apparently I'm overqualified but undereducated to be employed.
If anyone happens to know whether any of the buildings immediately surrounding the WTC have been affected I would really appreciate knowing which ones; my sister is in 140 Broadway. Thank you. Sorry for the non-operational content.
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of deeann mikula Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 7:22 AM To: Charles Sprickman Cc: Avi Freedman; nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Horrible world trade center crash, traffic effect
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Charles Sprickman wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Avi Freedman wrote:
FYI, 2 planes crashed into the world trade center. Sounds like on purpose.
Not to be ghoulish, but the traffic impact is looking to be fairly large on the 'net (and on the PSTN in the NYC area).
few people (in pgh, PA) that i have been talking to on irc have reported ./'d news sites everywhere. (cnn.com, yahoo.com, msnbc.com, etc.) my office has been relegated am radio, which is pretty pathetic for an ISP.
pretty poor performance for a network orginally designed to faciliate communication in just such circumstances. i hope that military and federal communication is faring better than the commercial sites.
All VHF TV stations except for CBS 2 are off the air, many radio stations are off the air, and it's largely impossible to get a call in. All
i assume that in nyc or dc only. we are listening to AM radio just fine...
From what I know, Exodus 9th Ave and 11th Ave buildings were evacuated, but intact. I don't speak for Exo officially, just work here.
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Rachel Luxemburg wrote:
If anyone happens to know whether any of the buildings immediately surrounding the WTC have been affected I would really appreciate knowing which ones; my sister is in 140 Broadway. Thank you. Sorry for the non-operational content.
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The problem seems to be site limiting, rather than network limiting. i.e., news sites are being overloaded, which is causing slow or no response to http queries due to either server overload (my guess) or news site transit link overload (also possible). This is what seems to be causing lacking of response to news sites, instead of generalized network or peering congestion. It doesn't help that it looks like CNN decided to turn off the "akamization" of their content. This had the immediate effect of helping them get the news up on their site faster, but the lack of Flash Crowd protection really hurt them in the long run. It is definately a Flash Crowd day. :( - Daniel Golding -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of deeann mikula Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:22 AM To: Charles Sprickman Cc: Avi Freedman; nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Horrible world trade center crash, traffic effect On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Charles Sprickman wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Avi Freedman wrote:
FYI, 2 planes crashed into the world trade center. Sounds like on purpose.
Not to be ghoulish, but the traffic impact is looking to be fairly large on the 'net (and on the PSTN in the NYC area).
few people (in pgh, PA) that i have been talking to on irc have reported ./'d news sites everywhere. (cnn.com, yahoo.com, msnbc.com, etc.) my office has been relegated am radio, which is pretty pathetic for an ISP. pretty poor performance for a network orginally designed to faciliate communication in just such circumstances. i hope that military and federal communication is faring better than the commercial sites.
All VHF TV stations except for CBS 2 are off the air, many radio stations are off the air, and it's largely impossible to get a call in. All
i assume that in nyc or dc only. we are listening to AM radio just fine... deeann m.m. mikula director of operations telerama public access internet http://www.telerama.com 1.877.688.3200
The problem seems to be site limiting, rather than network limiting. i.e., news sites are being overloaded, which is causing slow or no response to http queries due to either server overload (my guess) or news site transit link overload (also possible). This is what seems to be causing lacking of response to news sites, instead of generalized network or peering congestion.
I can concur. Network running fine (busy, but not full). Servers *very* busy. I am amazed how few network outages in NYC I am hearing about. Simon -- Simon Lockhart | Tel: +44 (0)1737 839676 Internet Engineering Manager | Fax: +44 (0)1737 839516 BBC Internet Services | Email: Simon.Lockhart@bbc.co.uk Kingswood Warren,Tadworth,Surrey,UK | URL: http://support.bbc.co.uk/
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