RE: Fwd: cnn.com - Homeland Security seeks cybercounterattack system(Einstein 3.0)
-------Original Message------- From: *Hobbit* [mailto:hobbit@avian.org] We've got plenty of military toyz we could level at Redmond... ------------------------------- ----- hcb@netcases.net wrote: ----- From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <hcb@netcases.net> This one? http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/1998/07/13987 -------------------------------- This: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/USS_Yorktown.jpg was rendered unusable by a sh!++y OS? !!! <wipes tears from eyes after rolling around on the floor in convulsive laughter> BWAHAHAHAHA! GREAT link! I needed to smile as I constantly go through Micro$loth vs. *nix arguments here. :-) "Using Microsoft's Windows NT operating system in such a critical environment, some engineers said, was a bad move. " - The sky is blue, too. "Technically, Windows NT Server 4.0 is no match for any Unix operating system." - DUH!
On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:54:33 PDT, Scott Weeks said:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/USS_Yorktown.jpg
was rendered unusable by a sh!++y OS? !!!
To be fair, designing a system that could be dead in the water if one component bluescreened probably wasn't a wise idea either, and one totally separate from the actual choice of operating system. Even Solaris and AIX crash if sufficiently provoked. But it's no surprise that the same designers who created it with a single point of failure then turned around and implemented the critical component with likely-to-fail thechnology. "Windows NT 4.0 - the choice of unclued systems designers everywhere" :)
In patient care systems, we would convince the doctors that didn't want Linux by saying "would you like a blue screen of death to be literal?" -----Original Message----- From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu [mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 6:00 PM To: surfer@mauigateway.com Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Fwd: cnn.com - Homeland Security seeks cybercounterattacksystem(Einstein 3.0) On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:54:33 PDT, Scott Weeks said:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/USS_Yorktown.jpg
was rendered unusable by a sh!++y OS? !!!
To be fair, designing a system that could be dead in the water if one component bluescreened probably wasn't a wise idea either, and one totally separate from the actual choice of operating system. Even Solaris and AIX crash if sufficiently provoked. But it's no surprise that the same designers who created it with a single point of failure then turned around and implemented the critical component with likely-to-fail thechnology. "Windows NT 4.0 - the choice of unclued systems designers everywhere" :)
Scott Weeks wrote:
This:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/USS_Yorktown.jpg
was rendered unusable by a sh!++y OS? !!!
<wipes tears from eyes after rolling around on the floor in convulsive laughter>
Um, no, that one was rendered unusable by Japanese bombs and torpedoes at Midway in 1942. This: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Yorktown_(CG-48) was what was taken down by Windows NT. -- Jeff Shultz
Ah, it's a bit worse. This is the ship that ran Windows. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a1/USS_Yorktown_%28CG- 48%29%3B04014806.jpg/300px-USS_Yorktown_%28CG-48%29%3B04014806.jpg You have a picture of the World War II carrier. Now, this one, the second ship of the class, has been retired, but that's because it had old-style missile launchers that were not cost-effective to update. -----Original Message----- From: Scott Weeks [mailto:surfer@mauigateway.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 5:55 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Fwd: cnn.com - Homeland Security seeks cybercounterattacksystem(Einstein 3.0) -------Original Message------- From: *Hobbit* [mailto:hobbit@avian.org] We've got plenty of military toyz we could level at Redmond... ------------------------------- ----- hcb@netcases.net wrote: ----- From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <hcb@netcases.net> This one? http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/1998/07/13987 -------------------------------- This: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/USS_Yorktown.jpg was rendered unusable by a sh!++y OS? !!! <wipes tears from eyes after rolling around on the floor in convulsive laughter> BWAHAHAHAHA! GREAT link! I needed to smile as I constantly go through Micro$loth vs. *nix arguments here. :-) "Using Microsoft's Windows NT operating system in such a critical environment, some engineers said, was a bad move. " - The sky is blue, too. "Technically, Windows NT Server 4.0 is no match for any Unix operating system." - DUH!
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