--- nanog@nanog.org wrote: From: i mawsog via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> :: Agree, this thread has generated more "spam" or noise :: for all of us collectively.  It's not spam. Look up the definition of spam. Also, just block the thread in your email client. :: Some amount of relevant "spam"  has to be tolerated for :: vendor to continue supporting NANOG. No, that is absolutely wrong! :: Also relevant "spam" or sales call is a good way to find :: out about new technologies , that one may not have heard :: about otherwise. No, wrong again. One of the most attractive things about NANOG is learning these things from **peers**, not spam. :: Another tip, just ignore,  the "spammer" will go away :: eventually.   If they're not named-n-shamed they will continue. I have had quite a few go after me aggressively to sell me something after a NANOG post. They didn't stop until I named-n-shamed them. Their supervisors wrote me, personally apologized and, due to that, I put their companies back on my list of companies to do business with. I write this not just to you, but as an explanation to other new folks why the old schoolers name-n-shame. scott