I have a customer who's trying to decide whether to renew their existing transit contract or not for a POP they have in the UK and wondering what's good for transit options out there. Looking for: - Good peering/reachability to other networks (I've already started perusing the LINX peer list) - Decent BGP community set (at a minimum RTBH and local pref, obviously the richer the better) - v6 support - Own the last mile a bonus Can anyone offer any recommendations? Cheers, GTG
On 17 September 2015 at 21:49, Gary T. Giesen <ggiesen+nanog@giesen.me> wrote:
I have a customer who's trying to decide whether to renew their existing transit contract or not for a POP they have in the UK and wondering what's good for transit options out there.
Looking for:
- Good peering/reachability to other networks (I've already started perusing the LINX peer list) - Decent BGP community set (at a minimum RTBH and local pref, obviously the richer the better) - v6 support - Own the last mile a bonus
Can anyone offer any recommendations?
Cheers,
GTG
Hi Gary, Are you after full transit or UK/Europe only? For full transit all the big carriers are in most of the major UK PoPs (it would be handy if you mentioned the PoP name!). Just look on each carriers website and check their PoP list. Most major teir 1s meet your requirements, tier 2's I've seen that meet youre requirements with present in the UK are Hibernia, IIX/IXReach/Allegro, Init7 etc. If you want a UK or European view only, I know networks like Enta which are well peered offer their European partial transit view for less than the cost of a full table feed. I'm sure there are others too. +1 for Chris's advice, reach out on UKNOF. Cheers, James.
Hi Gary, On 18/09/15 09:29, James Bensley wrote:
For full transit all the big carriers are in most of the major UK PoPs (it would be handy if you mentioned the PoP name!). Just look on each carriers website and check their PoP list.
As per James, you did forget to point out where the PoP is. The location matters, as - contrary to what James says - if you're not in London you can quite often find some large gaps in 'big carrier' availability. (Actually, there are plenty of places in London where that is true as well). As for more direct answers:
- Good peering/reachability to other networks (I've already started perusing the LINX peer list)
I'd suggest that your client just peer directly, if it's available in the PoP. :)
- Decent BGP community set (at a minimum RTBH and local pref, obviously the richer the better)
- v6 support
You should be good here with most of the bigger operators. It's mostly the smaller tier-2s that don't tend to get these right. Easy to avoid.
- Own the last mile a bonus
This is trickier in the UK. There aren't *that* many people with their own fibre in the ground; quite often it's all, or partially, leased DF. Most with their own fibre _and_ sizeable transit business, are the big telcos (whom I'd avoid buying from, personally). On the other hand, this does not seem to be an issue for a well-built/planned network. A few bits of advice: - Prices are changing a lot, so don't sign contracts >12 months - Put 3356 in that list of 'big telcos'* * Very little seems to be going well for them in the UK lately. More details on location & commitments, and whether you wish to peer directly, will probably help narrow down recommendations. :) Regards, -- Tom
It seems some time if you want a good uplink you have to rent a L2 channel to another country for that ;) So that can be an option too. On 17.09.15 23:49, Gary T. Giesen wrote:
I have a customer who's trying to decide whether to renew their existing transit contract or not for a POP they have in the UK and wondering what's good for transit options out there.
Looking for:
- Good peering/reachability to other networks (I've already started perusing the LINX peer list) - Decent BGP community set (at a minimum RTBH and local pref, obviously the richer the better) - v6 support - Own the last mile a bonus
Can anyone offer any recommendations?
Cheers,
GTG
Suggestion ....Hibernia Networks ? Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom ----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary T. Giesen" <ggiesen+nanog@giesen.me> To: "nanog list" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 4:49:53 PM Subject: Transit Options in the UK?
I have a customer who's trying to decide whether to renew their existing transit contract or not for a POP they have in the UK and wondering what's good for transit options out there.
Looking for:
- Good peering/reachability to other networks (I've already started perusing the LINX peer list) - Decent BGP community set (at a minimum RTBH and local pref, obviously the richer the better) - v6 support - Own the last mile a bonus
Can anyone offer any recommendations?
Cheers,
GTG
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