At 03:34 PM 11/14/97 -0500, Phil Lawlor wrote: Does this statement have anything to do with your recent crucifiction on the cover of Boardwatch (Nov 1997)? :-) -Hank
This is completely incorrect. AGIS' AUP can be found at www.agis.net. We are vigorously enforcing our AUP. AGIS will not sell connectivity to UCE businesses, and have not for some time. We investigate all complaints about AGIS' customers that are sent to abuse@agis.net. Spammers have been terminated, and will continue to be as long as I run this company.
Thank you,
Phil Lawlor President AGIS Voice - 313-730-1130 Fax - 313-563-6119
On Sun, Nov 16, 1997 at 02:26:11PM +0200, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
At 03:34 PM 11/14/97 -0500, Phil Lawlor wrote: Does this statement have anything to do with your recent crucifiction on the cover of Boardwatch (Nov 1997)? :-)
Apparently Hank didn't read the article. It _doesn't_ crucify Lawlor, it praises him. And damn Rickard... his reasoning is _right_, again. I _hate_ it when he does that. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com Member of the Technical Staff Unsolicited Commercial Emailers Sued The Suncoast Freenet "Two words: Darth Doogie." -- Jason Colby, Tampa Bay, Florida on alt.fan.heinlein +1 813 790 7592
On Nov 16, "Jay R. Ashworth" <jra@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us> wrote:
On Sun, Nov 16, 1997 at 02:26:11PM +0200, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
At 03:34 PM 11/14/97 -0500, Phil Lawlor wrote: Does this statement have anything to do with your recent crucifiction on the cover of Boardwatch (Nov 1997)? :-)
Apparently Hank didn't read the article.
It _doesn't_ crucify Lawlor, it praises him.
And damn Rickard... his reasoning is _right_, again.
Except, of course, that he still sees spam as a speech issue, as opposed to a theft-of-services issue. But this isn't the right place to discuss that. ********************************************************* J.D. Falk voice: +1-650-482-2840 Supervisor, Network Operations fax: +1-650-482-2844 PRIORI NETWORKS, INC. http://www.priori.net "The People You Know. The People You Trust." *********************************************************
Phil Lawlor writes:
This is completely incorrect. AGIS' AUP can be found at www.agis.net. We are vigorously enforcing our AUP. AGIS will not sell connectivity to UCE businesses, and have not for some time. We investigate all complaints about AGIS' customers that are sent to abuse@agis.net. Spammers have been terminated, and will continue to be as long as I run this company.
So this evenings trace, which timed out, to a ubiquitous spam host 'savoynet.com' does NOT feed through AGIS.net? Oh, savoynet.com is under investigation. Oh, well. I guess more 'evidence' needs to be gathered... How long do these 'investigations' last, pray tell? Uh - huh... __ traceroute tatiyana.savoynet.com traceroute to tatiyana.savoynet.com (204.157.255.6), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 us 2 them 3 them 4 191.ATM10-0-0.XR1.EWR1.ALTER.NET (146.188.176.137) 3.785 ms -73.863 ms -59.178 ms 5 193.ATM1-0-0.CR2.EWR1.ALTER.NET (146.188.176.17) -19.172 ms 2.073 ms -2.8 68 ms 6 Hssi1-0.BR1.PSK1.Alter.Net (137.39.100.29) -23.992 ms 89.323 ms -4.135 ms 7 f1-0.pennsauken1.agis.net (192.157.69.19) 164.087 ms -4.895 ms -82.539 ms 8 a0.58.philadelphia1.agis.net (206.185.158.9) -0.704 ms -93.901 ms 39.520 ms enroute to savoynet.com but I'd rather eat supper than wait for the trace to crawl all the way there... -- via MacEAST, Boston MA http://www.maceast.org +1 (781) 899-0020 [8-N-1] telnet://fc.maceast.org postmaster@piping.com ftp://ftp.maceast.org
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