RE: ISPs are asked to block yet another port
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, gml wrote:
Security is a lifestyle.
People laugh when I say this, do they laugh when you say it?
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher L. Morrow Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:00 AM To: Niels Bakker Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: ISPs are asked to block yet another port
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Niels Bakker wrote:
* chris@UU.NET (Christopher L. Morrow) [Mon 23 Jun 2003, 18:01 CEST]: [..]
Two interesting points though:
1) Spammers adapt 2) default insecure OS installs cause problems
Employees of XS4ALL, a Dutch ISP, today held several talks about a variety of subjects for its customers to celebrate its 10th anniversary. One of the talks was about security in general, held by Scott McIntyre. Hopefully he'll have the slides on soon because it was an excellent talk, in which he touched upon several subjects mentioned in this thread (spammers, trojans, viruses, default installations being vulnerable, that port blocking is not a solution at all).
I'll post a URL when it becomes available.
Sweet, too many people just don't take security very seriously :( Its a shame really, security only seems to matter when the sky is falling, its not taken as a daily necessity.
-Chris
Security is a lifestyle.
People laugh when I say this, do they laugh when you say it?
you have to turn it around, "insecurity is a lifestyle", before people will skip the polite (because they think you're joking and it isn't funny) or nervous (because they think you're paranoid) laughter. lately i've been thinking about trust and privacy and confidence, and it's really icky how the more digital communications tools we get the less right to control our information experience we have. e-mail is among several things which hasn't further liberated any individuals but which quite a few large companies consider a great boon -- precisely because they can shift costs down into the noise level and stop considering the desireability or usefulness of their outbound messaging. but it's not just e-mail, it's on my phone and on my fax machine and on my SMS PDA and oh what a mess. trustlessness is a lifestyle. -- Paul Vixie
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Paul Vixie wrote:
Security is a lifestyle.
People laugh when I say this, do they laugh when you say it?
you have to turn it around, "insecurity is a lifestyle", before people will skip the polite (because they think you're joking and it isn't funny) or nervous (because they think you're paranoid) laughter.
I'll attempt this in the future :) Though normally I ascribe the laughter to my height... not my paranoia :)
lately i've been thinking about trust and privacy and confidence, and it's really icky how the more digital communications tools we get the less right to control our information experience we have. e-mail is among several things which hasn't further liberated any individuals but which quite a few large companies consider a great boon -- precisely because they can shift costs down into the noise level and stop considering the desireability or usefulness of their outbound messaging. but it's not just e-mail, it's on my phone and on my fax machine and on my SMS PDA and oh what a mess.
trustlessness is a lifestyle. -- Paul Vixie
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