Background: Verizontal is pushing their FIOS PON offering to residences. It will put IP access, 'cable' TV and POTS phone on glass. They then cut down your copper drop. But midst the VoIP E911 dustup, the issue of backup power has arisen. The FIOS box needs local power, and a small gel-cell good for say 5 hours. The *subscriber* must buy and install new ones as needed. Some pholks are dubious how well that will work... Foreground: There's one report that Verizontal, in ex-NuNuts territory, is also not maintaining batteries in their on-premises DS-3 -> n DS-1's mux's. Only if you get a full DS-3 will they bother. Question: Have any NANOG'ers [NANOGites? NANOGees?] run into this? Again, this is LEC owned, LEC maintained, equipment....Do you provide generator power for such in your space? -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433
Once upon a time, David Lesher <wb8foz@nrk.com> said:
Have any NANOG'ers [NANOGites? NANOGees?] run into this? Again, this is LEC owned, LEC maintained, equipment....Do you provide generator power for such in your space?
We do provide generator power in our space to the telcos. BellSouth has a big (pre-existing) battery bank, but KMC didn't install batteries (there wasn't much point; if our UPS and generator fail, there's nothing for them to provide service to). In this area, I believe that BellSouth uses natural gas powered generators, as many of the remote cabinets (installed in the last 5-7 years or so anyway) have a gas meter next to them and a line running into a second cabinet (generator/power supply I suppose). -- Chris Adams <cmadams@hiwaay.net> Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005, David Lesher wrote:
Background:
Verizontal is pushing their FIOS PON offering to residences. It will put IP access, 'cable' TV and POTS phone on glass. They then cut down your copper drop.
But midst the VoIP E911 dustup, the issue of backup power has arisen. The FIOS box needs local power, and a small gel-cell good for say 5 hours. The *subscriber* must buy and install new ones as needed. Some pholks are dubious how well that will work...
If it has a sufficiently anoying alarm. someone will eventually service it... If the cpe requires the consumer to test the battery no-one will ever replace them.
Foreground:
There's one report that Verizontal, in ex-NuNuts territory, is also not maintaining batteries in their on-premises DS-3 -> n DS-1's mux's. Only if you get a full DS-3 will they bother.
Question:
Have any NANOG'ers [NANOGites? NANOGees?] run into this? Again, this is LEC owned, LEC maintained, equipment....Do you provide generator power for such in your space?
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On Sat, 4 Jun 2005, David Lesher wrote:
Have any NANOG'ers [NANOGites? NANOGees?] run into this? Again, this is LEC owned, LEC maintained, equipment....Do you provide generator power for such in your space?
Generally, the ILECs were the only ones that did this. I've had multiple CLECs (Brooks, MFS, WilTel, etc) install fibermux cabinets, none of them provided any backup batteries by default. They used local building power, and we had to make sure they were connected to our backup generator. If you wanted to pay for it, some of the CLECs would add batteries. But it wasn't part of the base package.
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