This type of post should be a wake-up call for all of those who say we don't need more space. The moment the cost of space will go up, people will look for an alternative to paying more. I guess we'll see how much or little the market will bear. Wonderful inflation. -- Christian Kuhtz, Sr. Network Architect Architecture, BellSouth.net <ck@arch.bellsouth.net> -wk, <ck@gnu.org> -hm Atlanta, GA "Speaking for myself only." -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of John Smaling Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 4:16 PM To: 'nanog@merit.edu' Subject: Request for assistance -- This is not intended to be SPAM, but a legitimate request for advice. An organization I work for, holds a registered full class 'B' address range. Since we are moving to an RFC 1918 based addressing scheme, we are looking to "sell" the rights to utilize our class 'B'. Having no experience with this, I can only assume that perhaps a secondary tier ISP may have an interest in this, but I have no idea where to begin, or if this has value at all. Can someone provide me with some advice relative to what types of organizations might be interested in such a purchase, who they might be, and any other pertinent information. I'm aware that ARIN provides this type of thing for a price, that they publish on their Web site. I'd like to reiterate that I'm not looking for buyers through this forum, but advice on how I might go about pursuing this. end

In a just, sensible world, you would be able to sell your IP space. Instead of the capitalistic IP address exchange we should have, we are stuck with the IP equivalent of a collective farm. I suspect that you are now screwed, as the fine folks at ARIN (as well as everyone else) reads this list. Why don't we just have a electronic IP Address Commodity exchange? We already pay for IP addresses now, in several ways: 1) IP address analysts to crank out huge ARIN reports 2) Yearly ARIN fees Last time I checked, we were all in this for the money. (gasp!) Why don't we just make it more honest and allow IPs to be bought and sold like all of the other tools of our trade. That's the only way all the old legacy space (currently being horded) will every get used. Remember who has all the legacy Class A space? Big corps and colleges. If ARIN asks for it back, they will give them the organizational equivalent of the middle finger. On the other hand, if someone made MIT a decent offer, they would sell their space in a minute. Make IPs fungible assets is the right way to go. Daniel Golding On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, John Smaling wrote:

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This is not intended to be SPAM, but a legitimate request for advice. An organization I work for, holds a registered full class 'B' address range. Since we are moving to an RFC 1918 based addressing scheme, we are looking to "sell" the rights to utilize our class 'B'. Having no experience with this, I can only assume that perhaps a secondary tier ISP may have an interest in this, but I have no idea where to begin, or if this has value at all. Can someone provide me with some advice relative to what types of organizations might be interested in such a purchase, who they might be, and any other pertinent information. I'm aware that ARIN provides this type of thing for a price, that they publish on their Web site. I'd like to reiterate that I'm not looking for buyers through this forum, but advice on how I might go about pursuing this.

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