FYI Sprint is not allowing anything larger than 6Mb from Pensauken, circa April 4, 1997, for customer connections that is. Best regards, David Van Allen - You Tools Corporation / FASTNET(tm) dave@fast.net (610) 289-1100 http://www.fast.net FASTNET - PA/NJ/DE Internet Solutions
-----Original Message----- From: Avi Freedman [SMTP:freedman@netaxs.com] Sent: Saturday, April 05, 1997 5:03 AM To: SEAN@SDG.DRA.COM Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Peering points
Or is the entire thing irrelevant, because everyone is moving to private bilateral connections. And the important thing is how many providers does someone peer, not how many exchange points they're connected to. For the price of one Sprint-NAP connection, I can get several connections to Canada. And we have a lot more customers in Canada than at the Sprint-NAP. We already peer with everyone at the Sprint-NAP, or been turned down by them elsewhere. So one more exchange point doesn't buy much. -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation
The SprintNAP is a much less congested place than MAE-East (though most providers also have less capacity out of it [besides Sprintlink, GSL, ICM, etc...])...
Avi
Interesting... We've seen the SprintNAP as a good place to send data to Sprintlink and MCI - and UUNET, when we were peering with them there. Avi
FYI Sprint is not allowing anything larger than 6Mb from Pensauken, circa April 4, 1997, for customer connections that is.
Best regards,
David Van Allen - You Tools Corporation / FASTNET(tm) dave@fast.net (610) 289-1100 http://www.fast.net FASTNET - PA/NJ/DE Internet Solutions
-----Original Message----- From: Avi Freedman [SMTP:freedman@netaxs.com] Sent: Saturday, April 05, 1997 5:03 AM To: SEAN@SDG.DRA.COM Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Peering points
Or is the entire thing irrelevant, because everyone is moving to private bilateral connections. And the important thing is how many providers does someone peer, not how many exchange points they're connected to. For the price of one Sprint-NAP connection, I can get several connections to Canada. And we have a lot more customers in Canada than at the Sprint-NAP. We already peer with everyone at the Sprint-NAP, or been turned down by them elsewhere. So one more exchange point doesn't buy much. -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation
The SprintNAP is a much less congested place than MAE-East (though most providers also have less capacity out of it [besides Sprintlink, GSL, ICM, etc...])...
Avi
FYI Sprint is not allowing anything larger than 6Mb from Pensauken, circa April 4, 1997, for customer connections that is.
Best regards,
Well then why did they require us to have FULL T3 into that NAP? Nathan Stratton President, NetRail,Inc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Phone (888)NetRail NetRail, Inc. Fax (404)522-1939 230 Peachtree Suite 500 WWW http://www.netrail.net/ Atlanta, GA 30303 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Matthew 6:34
On Sun, Apr 06, 1997 at 07:53:26PM -0400, Nathan Stratton wrote:
Well then why did they require us to have FULL T3 into that NAP?
Well, because you are not a Sprint CUSTOMER, which is exactly the type of connection that Avi was talking about (transit customer connections). Alec -- +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ |Alec Peterson - ahp@hilander.com | Erols Internet Services, INC. | |Network Engineer | Springfield, VA. | +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
On Sun, Apr 06, 1997 at 07:53:26PM -0400, Nathan Stratton wrote:
Well then why did they require us to have FULL T3 into that NAP?
Well, because you are not a Sprint CUSTOMER, which is exactly the type of connection that Avi was talking about (transit customer connections).
Alec
And because there was a provider who had a T1 into the NAP for quite some time :) Anyway, why would you put less than a "FULL T3" into that NAP? Avi
At 1:43 -0400 4.7.97, Avi Freedman wrote:
On Sun, Apr 06, 1997 at 07:53:26PM -0400, Nathan Stratton wrote:
Well then why did they require us to have FULL T3 into that NAP?
Well, because you are not a Sprint CUSTOMER, which is exactly the type of connection that Avi was talking about (transit customer connections).
Alec
It has nothing to do with being a Sprint customer. Sprint Government Systems Division, the NAP operator, does not support T1 connections to its NAP.
And because there was a provider who had a T1 into the NAP for quite some time :)
Those two providers upgraded to DS3 almost a year ago. We haven't supported T1s since then.
Anyway, why would you put less than a "FULL T3" into that NAP?
Avi
Precisely! Why would a ISP with a DS3 into the NAP want to peer with a T1? Steve * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Phone: 1.816.854.2113 Fax: 1.816.854.2201 Sprint Pager: 1.800.724.3329, PIN 398.6644 Outside U.S.: +1.619.279.8495, PIN 398.6644 Text Page via Internet: 3986644@pagenet.net or via WWW at: http://www.sprint.com/home/custserv/pager/sendpage.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Sprint not allowing anything larger than 6meg CUSTOMER connections has nothing to do with their policy of requiring a DS-3 for a NAP connection. They could have 500+ 6meg/3meg/1.5meg/DS-3 customers already there.... Ed On Sun, 6 Apr 1997, Nathan Stratton wrote: :> FYI Sprint is not allowing anything larger than 6Mb from Pensauken, :> circa April 4, 1997, for customer connections that is. :> :> Best regards, : :Well then why did they require us to have FULL T3 into that NAP? : :Nathan Stratton President, NetRail,Inc. :------------------------------------------------------------------------ :Phone (888)NetRail NetRail, Inc. :Fax (404)522-1939 230 Peachtree Suite 500 :WWW http://www.netrail.net/ Atlanta, GA 30303 :------------------------------------------------------------------------ :"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about :itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Matthew 6:34 :
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