FW: Death of the Internet, Film at 11
It's also generally counter to them being available outside of that network.
This does not follow and is not a natural consequence of sealing the little buggers up so that they cannot affect the Internet (or you private networks). Even if you lock you pet mouse in a cage, you can still feed it and clean up the shit in the cage. It just isn't free to wander out and eat the floral arrangements on the end-table.
(web and proprietary interfaces needed, SSH and telnet not). That's also not much I can do as a network operator.
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From: "Chris Boyd" <cboyd@gizmopartners.com> To: "Elizabeth Zwicky via NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 11:42:05 AM Subject: Re: Death of the Internet, Film at 11
On Oct 22, 2016, at 7:34 AM, Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
"taken all necessary steps to insure that none of the numerous specific types of CCVT thingies that Krebs and others identified"
Serious question... how?
Putting them behind a firewall without general Internet access seems to work for us. We have a lot of cheap IP cameras in our facility and none of them can reach the net. But this is probably a bit beyond the capabilities of the general home user.
—Chris
On 2016-10-22 19:03, Keith Medcalf wrote:
This does not follow and is not a natural consequence of sealing the little buggers up so that they cannot affect the Internet
Problem is that many of these gadgets want to be internet connected so mother at work can check on her kids at home, start the cooking, raise thermostat etc. The problem is that as a novelty, people are quick to adopt, but don't think about making their homes vulnerable to attack. (consider an internet connected door lock)
In message <580BF91D.9060902@vaxination.ca>, Jean-Francois Mezei <jfmezei_nanog@vaxination.ca> wrote:
Problem is that many of these gadgets want to be internet connected so mother at work can check on her kids at home...
Ah, technology! Just think what certain people could have accomplished if they had only lived long enough to enjoy the fruits of our marvelous technological advances. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Hauptmann And the good news, of course, is that with IPv6 everybody will have their own set of 4 billion addresses, so all those babycam/kidcams won't even have to be sitting behind NAT SOHO routers anymore. Password? What password? Regards, rfg
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